She's in her early 70's now. The exact details of it all I'm not caught up on. I think many are alive because of intuitive providers, and in some cases, technology as well. Even personally, I was telling my MIL I had to go for a gestational diabetes test and the same comment came out: "the doctors intervene too much." I then, of course, had to comment again explaining that diet, health, and family obligations are different than 50 years ago and explain the rise of diabetes during pregnancy that led to routine screening. But even so, she's correct, and as you said ultrasound was not invented in the earlier years.