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  1. Usafrn2015

    Need some advice

    An officer is a leader? That hasn't been established quite yet! LOL. I'm sure I'll learn all about that and saluting at COT if I advance on with this. Military and nursing experience aren't really comparable nor does one elevate above the other. I don't think anyone is denying that a 20 year chief master sergeant is going to have significantly more military experience than a brand new O-3 fresh out of OTS. Specific to nursing though, experience does matter and nurses with a more varied background aren't going to find it appealing to join the USAF with a policy that basically equates their experience to that of someone with much less. If you read back through the posts, you'll find that my frustration is less about the rank and more about the specific situation and it's evolution. I still can't get him to send me the policy. He keeps saying he will, but no joy yet.
  2. Usafrn2015

    Need some advice

    Hey camo, I totally understand what you mean about respecting a rank before it's awarded and building leadership qualities. With that said, they're going to diminish the average experience of nurses that they hire since more seasoned nurses may not find this offer as appealing. I'm not at all dogging newer nurses, but it just seems silly to group everyone into one tidy category. If they want to start everyone off as an O-2, then they need to change the timeline for advancement. I haven't read the policy (I'm going to nag him again today to send it to me), but I wonder what they do for those that have advanced education. I'd be really angry if I had say 10 years as a BSN nurse, completed an advanced degree, and then had a few years of advanced practice under my belt. At least I only have a few years that won't be counted and not several. Also, I feel the interview process is so lengthy and the questions so specific, that we have the chance to provide examples of ways we've demonstrated leadership. The skills may not be developed to the point where they want them to be, but we still have to show the capability. If I had known about this prior to swearing in and signing my paperwork, I probably wouldn't be as frustrated. I'd still think the policy was nonsense, but I wouldn't feel as deceived by my recruiter. I understand he claims it was incompetence and unintentional, but it's still annoying. This wasn't the only option for me, so I'm going to take the weekend to evaluate whether it's still the shiniest option. I'm going out of town so maybe a little distance and a lot of booze will help me have a fresh and more appreciative perspective on the situation. Do you know yet when you leave for COT and where you'll be going after that? Where in TN are you from -- is that too personal or a violation of T&C?
  3. Usafrn2015

    Need some advice

    Hey camo, my sign on bonus that i was told about also became ineligible but I had been warned not to rely on that because recruiters are usually FOS when they mention those (I was actually warned that recruiters are just FOS period). So I wasn't too disappointed about it since my monthly income would be what was indicated as an o-3. Of course that has decreased now too. I don't have loans either. What aggravates me is the policy and how ridiculous it is. How can you clump seasoned nurses that may have 10+ years in with someone who may only have 5 or 6 and think that's totally acceptable? Congrats on your selection. I'm still deciding if I'm going to move forward with it.
  4. Usafrn2015

    Need some advice

    They cap you off at 3 years now so it doesn't matter how long you've actually been a nurse once you reach a certain point. I requested a copy of the policy but he has still neglected to send it to me. I also asked him how it's been in effect for so long and his only response was an apology for not knowing about it when he should have. My options now are to accept the position and wait 12 mos for the promotion or walk away. I'm disgusted that all this is happening at the 12th hour and find the policy insulting.
  5. Usafrn2015

    Need some advice

    Thanks jf, I'm definitely going to ask for a copy of the policy. My initial post had a typo. I've been an RN for 8 years but he told me it would take another year for me to promote to captain. So I'm basically repeating senior year even though I've got all the credits to graduate now.
  6. Usafrn2015

    Need some advice

    Thanks dreaming, I figured the reason revolved around the training date somehow but wanted to ask and be sure.
  7. Usafrn2015

    Need some advice

    So he just responded to my e-mail questioning the calculations. He said that last fiscal year, I would have been appointed captain but the AF policy has changed since then. They now cap off at 3 years no matter how much experience you actually have...you only get credit for 3. He said he argued it with his manager and lost because it's a matter of policy. I just find it terribly shady that this all comes to fruition a week AFTER I sign all my documents.
  8. Usafrn2015

    Need some advice

    Pixie, you make a great point in stating that I need to hold him accountable. I have left a message and e-mail for him and am awaiting response, but I'm also very guarded to believe anything that he tells me at this point. I obtained a BSN in May 2007, took and passed NCLEX in June 2007, and began work as RN that same month. I've always worked full time and never had any gaps in employment.
  9. Usafrn2015

    Need some advice

    Hi Pixie, Thanks for taking the time to respond. I actually had a typo in my original question in that I have 8 years of experience. Not 7. So I don't understand how I don't qualify for captain at this time, much less why it would take another 12 months to become one. You said the same thing happened to you...how can you sign on for one rank and they just change it? Isn't that a breach from what you signed and agreed to? What happens if I don't sign these new terms? I don't feel comfortable asking my recruiter anything at this point since it's clear he's been dishonest with me (maybe out of ignorance and not malicious but regardless of intent - I've not been given accurate info). I'd rather him tell me "I don't know" than to invent an answer.
  10. Usafrn2015

    Need some advice

    Hello everyone, I'm new here and I come seeking input on a problem. I have no prior military experience and 7 years of civilian nursing. I signed my commissioning contract last week and said my oath. I commissioned as a captain, which is what I'd been told all along. Today, my recruiter called and stated that was an error. He wants me to sign all new paperwork with the new rank of O-2, which takes my pay and BAH down significantly. He told me I can advance to captain in a year, but I'm guarded to believe anything he tells me now. It's not so much that the rank changes, but I don't appreciate the deception. This is an error I feel should have been caught long before now. So my question is what occurs if I respectfully decline to demote myself due to error on their part? Also, in reviewing the papers on a closer level, they all say "reserves", even though I have been speaking with an AD health recruiter. Does that change once I complete COT or is that another "error"?