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HOPEforRNs ADN, BSN, MSN

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HOPEforRNs has 6 years experience as a ADN, BSN, MSN and specializes in Education, Skills & Simulation, Med/Surg.

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    PhD or DNP to become Faculty?

    I teach at a top nursing program and they STRONGLY prefer PhD. You will not find any tenure track or research track that are anything but PhD. Most everyone else has a DNP but it doesn't get you anything extra except administration not bugging you to go get a doctorate degree. The EdD was the first doctorate for nurses. It's a shame it's fallen by the wayside. PhD is for researchers. DNP is designed for APRNs. EdD seems perfect. A university I know of is also creating a DNE which would be super amazing if it catches on.
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    DNP vs EdD

    I am SO excited I actually found someone in the program!! I will be e-mailing you. Thanks so much!
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    DNP vs EdD

    I definitely feel like the EdD from Columbia will make me personally feel better, but it's just hard to justify the extra 3 years when my job won't care. I could get a DNP from an online diploma mill for profit school or an EdD from Columbia and it would be looked at the same. I've thought about just getting a PhD. But the EdD teaches me how to be a better educator, which is what I am. The PhD has zero nursing education courses. Literally not a single class excites me. And I don't want to be tenure track anyway -- way too many requirements to publish and get salary recovery through grants. I'll probably apply to Columbia and go from there.
  4. Has anyone graduated from Columbia's EdD Nurse Educator program or are currently in the program? The program is on my short list and I'd love to talk to someone in the program or who has gone through the program to help me decide!
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    DNP vs EdD

    The DNE doesn't yet exist. It's being created by The Ohio State University so I feel fairly confident it will be a wonderful degree once all the hoops are jumped through (such as getting CCNE accreditation). It's just a few years off still. I already teach at a top 10 nursing program (BSN, MSN, and DNP are all top 10 ranked). I will retire from here. I'm fairly certain an EdD and DNP are looked at as "equal" and a PhD is ideal. I just don't want a PhD. I want education to be my #1 focus, not scholarly work. An EdD is definitely the perfect fit for what I want, but it seems like a lot more work for likely no additional respect/opportunities at work.... which is really unfortunate.
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    DNP vs EdD

    I don't think a doctorate in education is meaningless letters. I have a feeling the director you are referencing wouldn't have been any better with ANY degree or letters after her name. What letters do you consider to not be meaningless? I need a terminal degree. A DNP doesn't make sense because it's designed for APRNs, which I am not. A PhD doesn't make sense because I don't want to be a researcher. An EdD seems to make sense as I am an educator and one focused in my area (nursing) seems like a good fit. I definitely want to make the right decision for my education/career so I'm curious why you think otherwise.
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    Just curious, is there a shortage?

    No, that's full time 9 month new hire MSN level hires. I work at a state institution, so salaries are public. I get state teachers retirement, so benefits are fabulous. I teach lab 20 hours fall semester and clinical 24 hours spring semester. I would have a path to tenure if I was doctorally prepared but a top 10 nursing program just doesn't offer that to master's level. We get free tuition as employees so I've thought about going back. Given that I get school breaks off as well, I actually work around 28 weeks a year. That's the full time year round equivalent of around $110k. I still work adjunct at the hospital. It lets me pick up more when I'm not teaching, such as school breaks and summers. It keeps me current as an instructor. I could be 12 month faculty, but I like the flexibility as a mom. I do sometimes pick up adjunct in the summers as well. Around here, adjunct pays $55/hr. Maybe that's not the case everywhere. But short of being a CRNA or psych NP I'm not sure of a job where I could make more for my time. I do, I am contingent at the local hospital and I pick up a lot in the summers and end up making more than if I was just a full-time staff nurse. There are very few nursing jobs out there that pay in excess of $180,000 a year. You're an outlier.
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    Just curious, is there a shortage?

    Most MSN prepared 9 month faculty at the universities around me pay $60k starting out. For only working 9 months out of the year and getting school breaks off, that's pretty darn good money plus the hours are amazing.
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    Am I too young in experience to teach?

    Do it!! Nursing was a second career for me. I started my MSN exactly 3 years into being a nurse. I worked contingent as a RN during school and my first couple years teaching. I no longer do as I have young kids. I love my job. I'm now looking into doctoral programs. I teach at a highly ranked university in the BSN program. It's wonderful.
  10. HOPEforRNs

    Cleaning Simulators

    Baby powder works great!
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    DNP vs EdD

    I have my BSN from the same top 5 nursing program where I have taught for the past 5 years. My MSN (nursing education) is from Capella University. My job is pushing me hard to get a terminal degree. I'm not eligible for most DNP programs nor do they make sense since I am not an advanced practice nurse nor do I desire to be. There are a few CCNE accredited DNP programs that would allow me to complete the program but I would need 900 clinical hours and it would be quite expensive. American Sentinel University has a DNP nurse educator and due to their ACEN accreditation, the hours would drop to 600. I got accepted and got full NFLP funding. But I worry about getting another degree from an online "diploma mill" style school. And I am still hesitant about the DNP since the degree was designed for advanced practice nurses, not educators. I recently discovered that Columbia University has an EdD specifically in nursing education. It is a long and intense program that seems to be closer aligned to a PhD. However, I would be specifically prepared as a nurse educator at the doctoral level, not a nurse scientist like with a PhD. It seems perfect, although I'm not thrilled about all the extra time / effort vs the DNP. But is it worth it? Will it look way better on paper? Open up more doors? Guide me to being a better educator? I have not found anyone who personally went through that program. A final option is that I am aware of a school that is creating a brand-new degree, the DNE... Doctorate in nursing education. It is essentially a DNP specifically designed for nurse educators. They are actively seeking CCNE accreditation. It will mirror the DNP and also have the 1000 hours post bachelor's requirement which would mean 900 hundred hours for me. This is a well ranked and well respected university. I have no interest in being a nurse scientist who lives for grant money and publishing. I like teaching. Most of what I want to do is translate the existing research into the educational world to ensure we are educating our nursing students in the best way we know. However, if a topic interests me, I want to have the ability and knowledge do a study. I just finished a big QI project that got me published in a peer-reviewed journal which was exciting. The DNE sounds amazing, but it's a few years off. And I'm annoyed at having to do 900 hours because that would mean adding to my current workload and doing my job extra without pay. What's the point and benefit!? But it would be faster and less rigorous than the EdD. Also, I have 2 kids and plan to start trying for a 3rd. I would love to wait but a combination of my job pushing me and not knowing if NFLP funding will still exist down the road and knowing down the road I will wish I had just done it has led me to looking at options now. I'm in my lower 30s so I have a long career ahead of me. Sorry for rambling and the long post but any insight would be greatly appreciated. Anyone I've asked at work is just PhD or nothing except the NPs all say DNP. I have no idea why the EdD doesn't seem to have the respect in nursing education. It seems like the most ideal degree for an educator. Thanks!
  12. I teach pharmacology to 166 nursing students with my MSN in nursing education at a top 5 nursing school!
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    Regis College Online DNP

    Did you get accepted and attend this program? Do you like it?
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    DNP - Nursing Education

    I am looking for a DNP accredited through ACEN to avoid the 1,000 hours post bachelor's. I have my MSN in Nursing Education, so I only have 100 clinical hours and have no interest in getting 900 more. I also want a program that is entirely online (OK with going to campus to defend my project). I also want somewhere that gives NFLP funding. I found Regis College which has everything I want. Are there any others? I work FT as nurse faculty and plan to continue in this career until I retire.
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    FNP with FT job

    I am currently a nursing professor. I work 730a - 330p Mon-Fri generally. I have a little flexibility, but it's always daytime weekday hours. The university where I teach has recently gave approval for faculty to do graduate nursing programs within the College of Nursing. I have been toying with doing a post-masters for FNP (my MSN is nursing education). However, how much would I hate my life for 3 semesters? It's 650 clinical hour split over 3 semester. It's primary care, so evening/weekend options are obviously limited. I have a 19 month old and another on the way. Am I crazy? Bad idea? Anyone else done this? How much did it suck?
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    Capella University

    I did the MSN program so I can't answer too many of your questions. 2 classes, if you also have a job, is a lot of work. I can see why they only recommend 2. As a grad student, that was considered full-time. It is 8 credit hours. I did take 3 classes (12 credit hours) one semester and it was rough, but doable. If you have a full-time job, you could probably manage 3 if you worked REALLY hard and did not have any other commitments (like kids). Otherwise, I would highly recommend sticking with the recommended 2.
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