futureeastcoastNP

Agree with above. By choosing Salem State your fiancée is still avoiding the for profit schools, which is already a step above what seems like half of the pre-NPs on this forum. Simmons is supposed to be great, but not worth that cost. Could she poss...

Not trying to be flamed, so please think logically and only post well thought out arguments (not personal attacks, etc). I would like to know why nurses, from RNs to NPs, seem to be so enamored with for profit schools? For almost every other professi...

Thanks for posting that Dranger. So NPs must limit hard science courses to be cost effective, yet there's room for "curriculum instruction" "health policy development" and "organization leadership"?? I'm sorry but this just doesn't hold water. You ca...

Honestly, the DNP programs are stretching out NP education to be as long as medical school, yet they still cannot seem to find the space to add in a few medical microbiology or gross anatomy courses? Why is it that the argument against hard science c...

People here seem to think adding a few science courses to the NP curriculum would suddenly make it similar to medical school. It wouldn't. I don't think anyone here is advocating NP school to be comparable to medical school because that would take a ...

I certainly hope so. Don't you hope and expect graduate level patho (to be a provider no less) to be harder and more in depth than undergraduate level patho?

PAs include advanced science training, including cadaver labs, and they are you'll cost effective. The difference? They don't waste half of their credits on fluff.

And it's an osteopathic school, so there are still NO for profit MD schools. In addition, most physicians and students fully voice their opposition to it with no problem, on all types of forums. Here, for profits are defended vigorously and one can b...

Go to other sites and see what those posters think of NPs. Those are our future colleagues. Older doctors are used to older NPs, those with tons of experience that went to reputable schools and had lots of hands on experience. The new generation of u...

And personally I think every NP should be required to learn more hard science in school. Why is it that you brush off everyone else's opinion about the NP profession and education process by asking for "proof" yet turn around and spout your opinion a...

I think nursing policy and theory courses are fine, and they certainly don't hurt, AS LONG AS they don't take place of legitimate clinical based and science courses. The problem is, it seems the fluffy theory courses are used not to augment a proper ...

Gross anatomy is probably the biggest thing. Beyond that, I'd probably argue that NP programs could use specific requirements for a skills class (suturing, etc) as well as a diagnostic imaging class. I know these are sometimes hidden in other classes...

Wonderful, a big win in such a large state. No residency requirement before independence?

Because I don't think it should be optional that NPs have advanced science knowledge. That would mean those NPs that are not motivated to be the best could still squeak by without that knowledge, bringing down the whole profession. I mean one big thi...

I don't get why people think that all the wonderful qualities that NPs bring to the table means there shouldn't also be advanced science. Yes, NPs have prior experience. Yes, NPs approach care from a more human center model. But you know what? All th...

I'm actually glad you posted that - I say on this forum all the time that fully online FOR profit schools look bad for the profession, and that to an outsider it may cause a lack of respect for the profession as a whole, but few listen. Most people h...

The less reputable ones are the ones that only want to collect tuition money, and thus they have less demanding entrance criteria because their goal is maximum enrollment vs ensuring students will succeed. This includes for profits mainly, and for pr...

It's because rather than increasing standards for admissions, we're decreasing them, allowing online for profit schools with no admissions standards to open. Osteopathic schools, while easier than MD schools to get into, are still very difficult to g...

Great info, thanks dollikoe! To OP, make sure you actually click potential schools and read the info from this link, it tells you about number of full time faculty, graduation rate, etc. I was able to find two for profit schools that are ranked in th...

I've never heard of UC being that much better than OU so I don't see why you'd spend the extra honestly.

There is nothing negative about informing a potential student about a school being for profit, but I apologize if it offended you. Most schools are not for profit - the best schools in the country are not for profit. Schools such as Harvard, Yale, ec...

Chamberlain is a for profit business. I'd look elsewhere first...

Some online schools help find preceptors, and some brick and mortar schools don't. It's not an online versus in person thing, it's a top school versus lower ranked school thing. In general, the better and more reputable programs tend to be more invol...

Is 80% a good pass rate? The national average is like 94% isn't it?

Easiest way to tell is to check Wikipedia of any school you're interested in. If it says "for profit" than they just want you to pay them and you should avoid.