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  1. Scope of FNPs

    patnshan replied to nycNurse2b's topic in Nurse Practitioners, NP

    Looks like vanderbilt has a few dual programs http://www.mc.vanderbilt.edu/nursing/siteindex.html Good luck!

  2. question for EXPERIENCED NPs, please!

    patnshan replied to APP's topic in Nurse Practitioners, NP

    Yep, it's all individual in terms of what one comes into a program having. I am one of the folks you elude to in the posts. The training is why I chose one over the other, everyone has different...

  3. question for EXPERIENCED NPs, please!

    patnshan replied to APP's topic in Nurse Practitioners, NP

    Way too much of a generalization here. Just trying to keep you honest:) Pat, PA-C, RN,

  4. PA's get more respect?

    patnshan replied to jphume's topic in Nurse Practitioners, NP

    I don't see any difference here. I think that this, as with any generalization is inaccurate. You will see places where PA's are more respected and places where NP's are more respected. That is...

  5. MD shortage prompts UDM to shorten PA program

    patnshan replied to Selke's topic in Nurse Practitioners, NP

    You are right. The highly specialized programs such as midwife and CRNA have the edge here. But then again, you are locked into a specific type of practice unless you want to go back to school...

  6. MD shortage prompts UDM to shorten PA program

    patnshan replied to Selke's topic in Nurse Practitioners, NP

    I didn't like nursing school. I thought it was a HUGE amount of "fluff" with very little substance. I also didn't like the professors at the university who were NP's, hadn't touched a patient in...

  7. Best Job To Get You Prepared For An Np?

    patnshan replied to johnson0424's topic in Nurse Practitioners, NP

    Basically an urgent care attached to an ER. I agree that this would be a good place. I suggest the ER as well, one that see's adults and kids. Pat, PA-C, MPAS, RN Hospitalist Physician

  8. MD shortage prompts UDM to shorten PA program

    patnshan replied to Selke's topic in Nurse Practitioners, NP

    Illinois is not a great state to practice in as a PA. There are some states that are better for PA's, some are better for NP's. In Wisconsin, I'd say it's pretty friendly to both professions. We...

  9. NP w/no desire for RN?

    patnshan replied to Pinoy2.0's topic in Nurse Practitioners, NP

    This is a common arguement with no basis. NP's and PA's are clinician's who are required to make medical decisions about patients. RN's do not and are not trained to do that. Pre-training clinical...

  10. Are you doing what you were trained for?

    patnshan replied to bryate1's topic in Nurse Practitioners, NP

    In my opinion, most NP's do not practice what they were trained for. NP's are trained for health promotion, teaching, and other social type things. Most NP's practice acute care MEDICINE. Most of...

  11. How to become an NP?

    patnshan replied to CW30's topic in Nurse Practitioners, NP

    For clarification, an NP cannot practice independently in the OR.

  12. Just a note on the NP vs PA debate...

    patnshan replied to TMnurse's topic in Nurse Practitioners, NP

    The clinical rotations during the NP and PA program is what really count. You are not a practitioner as an RN. I agree, RN or LPN experience should help you get into a PA or NP program and prepares...

  13. Just a note on the NP vs PA debate...

    patnshan replied to TMnurse's topic in Nurse Practitioners, NP

    Sean, I agree with a lot of what you said but just have to clarify one of the things, just to be correct. Most (if not all, but I cannot confirm the all part) PA programs involve one year of full...

  14. Just a note on the NP vs PA debate...

    patnshan replied to TMnurse's topic in Nurse Practitioners, NP

    The only reason I could think of would be to obtain a more thorough medical education, although there are other, less intensive ways of doing that.

  15. Just a note on the NP vs PA debate...

    patnshan replied to TMnurse's topic in Nurse Practitioners, NP

    Yes they can in two to three years, just like everybody else. No advanced standing, just probably favorable recognition in the admission process. Kind of what Danielle said.

  16. What is International Practice for mid-level practitioners

    patnshan replied to NurseFirst's topic in Nurse Practitioners, NP

    PA's have been gradually getting into England and Canada, but nowhere else except for US run third world country clinics. Actually, there is currently a program involving PA's spending time with...

  17. does a NP average more money than a PA? can NP's work w/out a docs oversight?

    patnshan replied to pts's topic in Nurse Practitioners, NP

    Thanks! You don't want to be my patient, as you'd have to be admitted to the hospital :wink2: Take care,

  18. does a NP average more money than a PA? can NP's work w/out a docs oversight?

    patnshan replied to pts's topic in Nurse Practitioners, NP

    Hi, I do not use both licenses. I keep the RN license so I can tell the RN's that I am an RN :chuckle No, really, I feel it's something I've earned, and may need to use it someday (like to get into...

  19. Just a note on the NP vs PA debate...

    patnshan replied to TMnurse's topic in Nurse Practitioners, NP

    AMEN!

  20. does a NP average more money than a PA? can NP's work w/out a docs oversight?

    patnshan replied to pts's topic in Nurse Practitioners, NP

    My comment is to mean that this poster has no idea what they are talking about. This is true. Also was and am an RN. In a recent survey of PA's, up to 30% said that they were RN's prior to going...

  21. does a NP average more money than a PA? can NP's work w/out a docs oversight?

    patnshan replied to pts's topic in Nurse Practitioners, NP

    I am a fully licensed RN, and I guess I didn't see the signs at the door! Ridiculous post, really. So, you want to live in a cave with no input from any of the other members of the vast healthcare...

  22. does a NP average more money than a PA? can NP's work w/out a docs oversight?

    patnshan replied to pts's topic in Nurse Practitioners, NP

    Thanks so much. This is how we work together at my establishment as well. Check out http://www.clinicanforum.com for more NP/PA harmony:D

  23. NP's and docs

    patnshan replied to MikeyBSN's topic in Nurse Practitioners, NP

    I think obesity and the failure to take responsibility for one's health does contribute to our poor health status as a country. Obviously, lack of access and lack of insurance for the working poor...

  24. NP's and docs

    patnshan replied to MikeyBSN's topic in Nurse Practitioners, NP

    I don't know of any docs who refer to us as subservient, but I'll bite. I have heard terms such as "collegial" for PA's versus "adversarial" for NP's from docs I work around. You sound a bit...

  25. Just a note on the NP vs PA debate...

    patnshan replied to TMnurse's topic in Nurse Practitioners, NP

    Nope. That is a common arguement, but not supported in fact. Being a nurse does not substitute for training to be a clinician. I was an RN and then went to PA school, so I am familiar with this....