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  1. I mean if a NP or pharmacist walks in, with ID that says Dr., and says "I'm DR. so-and-so without clarifying what their position is, patients assume the said person is MD/DO. It's confusing enough in the hospital; I've had patients think the respiratory therapist was the Dr., lol.
  2. Haha, I prefer feisty, and only sometimes. Our patients don't know who anyone is. This isn't about ego; it is about clarity for patients and families. Specific verbal identification is probably more important than badges. "I am Dr. --- your Nurse Practitioner" would work. Wow, good idea.
  3. This isn't about ego; it is about clarity for patients and families. I am Dr.---your Physician. I am Dr.---your Nurse Practitioner. I am Dr.---your Pharmacist. I am Dr.---I am an English professor who is visiting the patient next door.
  4. I think it would make things more clear if they introduced themselves as, "I am Dr._____, your pharmacist, or DR----your Nurse Practitioner or Dr.----Your physician. This isn't about ego; it is about clarity for patients and families.
  5. Eperience is the key. And we need to be kind, supportive mentors to our younglings.
  6. People, some excellent NP's treat me, some excellent Dr.'s treat me. I would think that an NP would want to stand up and shout from the rooftops that that is their profession, because the training they receive as nurses often brings a different, wider skill set. Nurses need to embrace our skills--especially our outstanding assessment skills--and say "I'm not a physician, I am a Nurse Practitioner, with all my fantastic skills, which in some places overlap with physicians and always something extra."
  7. Sorry for the salty. My issue is NOT the title; it ist how the title is used disingenuously by an NP, who refuses identify himself as such when patients make it clear that they think this person is a physician. It is unethical.
  8. The words may be the same, but the training isn't. What about A Dr. of Law? Is that the same thing? The training for NP is not even the same sport as medical school. NP doctoral program sample, last year of education: NUR (0302) 679 - Curriculm Dev, Implementation and Evaluation Credits: 3.00NUR (0302) 789 - Educational Theories and Application to Learning Credits: 3.00NUR (0302) 804 - Instructional Design in Nursing Education Credits: 3.00NUR (0302) 792 - Assessment and Measurement in Teaching Credits: 3.00NUR (0302) 793 - Seminar and Practicum in Nursing Education Credits: 2.00NUR (0302) 814 - Nursing Education and Diverse Learners Credits: 3.00NUR (0302) 815 - Research in Nursing Education Credits: 3.00NUR (0302) 816 - Technology in Nursing Education Credits: 3.00NUR (0302) 817 - Precepted Experience in Nursing Education The last YEARS in Physician training come after the book learning, and it is clinical, and it is brutal. If its all the same, have that NP or J.D. take out your appendix. Let me know how that works out for you. I will stick with the D.O./M.D.
  9. What I object to is this: An NP/PHD works in our ER. His Badge gives his name as Dr. "John Doe". He introduces himself as "Dr. John Doe". The patients think he is a Physician and he does nothing to dispel that falsehood. If he wanted to be known as a physician, he should have gone to medical school,, not NP school. It's not the same game and Its not even the same sport. I'm not saying he is not highly educated; I'm saying he is not educated as an M.D. or D.O.. He is educated as a Nurse Practitioner and he should claim it proudly or go to medical school.
  10. mene19

    Why are so many nurses against unions?

    At my former job, my union rep and I did not see eye to eye on many things. We had intelligent discussions and grew to respect each other immensely, even when we clashed in frustration. Examples of why I don't like unions for nurses: 1. Unions defend rules against pragmatics. Immediately after hurricane Sandy, I was assigned to help open an additional telemetry unit for the influx of patients needing monitoring. The hospital space and staff were stretched to the max. While transporting a patient from the ER to the new unit, the union rep tried to stop me; apparently it was not in my job description to push a bed. "It sets a precedent," she said. "It's about the patient, and It's an emergency situation." I replied, and continued until all 8 patients were transferred. 2. They protect dangerous workers, no matter how they deny/justify. Long term nurses who could no longer safely function in their position kept their places because of the union, even when these nurses were incompetent, physically unable to perform the work, or both. If a nurse has difficulty getting up from a chair, they don't belong in the ICU. 3. Unions have devolved into gangs: mandating who members vote for, bullying, intimidating. In the early 90's, 1199 went on strike in Philadelphia. At the Hospital of the Philadelphia College of Osteopathic Medicine (no longer open), union workers physically assaulted Dr.'s, vandalized lab equipment, and prevented loved ones from seeing their families. Unions forget they have a right to PEACEFULLY assemble. This does not mean blocking streets, denying others access to public places, and committing crimes. I'll never forget what I saw in Philadelphia and will never support a union again.
  11. I didn't say s/he was a troll, I said s/he acted like one. As for inflammatory, I will quote another member regarding this:" The trick is not to let those nit pickers get to you or to drive the conversation.Let them perseverate." I'll follow that advice.
  12. Lively debate I agree with. I insulted no one. I stated my opinion.
  13. Farawyn, you're on here constantly, putting your own spin on people's posts and generally acting like a troll. Stop it. Nurses don't need to be disrespected by other nurses. I've seen you before, you know. Unfortunately, we all have.
  14. mene19

    Top 10 Reasons Against Unions

    I've worked union AND non union, and until my nursing union responds to my questions about strike ethics I am not a supporter of unions. Unions are bullies. I will vote for who I want when I want. This is America. Businesses should be able to hire who they want, when they want without the threat of violence. I am a nurse--if the nurse's aide/messenger is busy and my patient needs blood I will run to the blood bank and get it--ethically, it IS my job and the excersise won't kill me. Violence, Vandalism, and Violation of civil rights during strikes must be stopped. Unions must protect workers rights WITHOUT violating their members right to disagree. If I don't agree with what we're striking for, I'm not striking. Get over yourselves, unions. You're necessary but you're not God.
  15. mene19

    Strike ethics

    I have repeatedly asked NYSNA to state their policies/procedures re: ethical behavior during strikes. As professionals, we need to publicly denounce violence, vandalism, and a commitment to respecting others' civil rights while preserving our own. In Philadelphia in the early 90's I witnessed doctors physically assaulted, lab specimens/equipment/patient files destroyed, families blocked from visiting. A patient died without saying good-bye to his children. This was 1199 in Philadelphia, and the police and the RN's backed them up. This is not only unprofessional, but savage and inhuman. While unions are necessary, the oppressed have become the oppressors. Justify this, union people. Someone give me an answer, because my union won't even send me a policy statement. They won't even answer my e-mails. Violence, vandalism, and violation of civil rights during strikes must be stopped. We are Nurses. We have a right to fight for our rights WITHIN THE LIMITS OF LAW AND DECENCY.
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