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    NYT Article: Men don't want to be nurses, and their wives agree

    Yes, men would rather be unemployed than embarrass themselves by working in health care and their wives don't want any girly-men at home. It's all in the nation's paper of record. Men Don’t Want to Be Nurses. Their Wives Agree. - The New York Times I occasionally meet somebody who can't wrap their head around the idea of men in nursing. By occasionally I mean every three or four years, ...and then there's Susan Chira for the Neanderthal, er I mean New York Times. Really Susan? I make as much as $165K/yr; not as a CRNA or NP or other advanced practice specialty, just an hourly drone in the ER who doesn't mind working the hours and is somewhat adept at taking advantage of many incentives. You wouldn't want your man doing that while holding a highly respected title and even doing some good once in a while? OK, got it. I just can't believe this could've been written at any time in the last fifty years. And you gotta love the concluding paragraph: quote/ Pink-collar jobs are crap jobs for anyone,” said Joan C. Williams, professor at the University of California Hastings College of the Law. We need to reinvent pink-collar jobs so men will take them and won't be unhappy — or women, either.” /quote Does this distinguished professor of law know that graduates from anything less than a top ten school are waiting tables and struggling to pick up paralegal work? One might hope that sexism is dead or dying, and to see this from a source as respected as the NY Times is mind blowing. They talk about moving unemployed blue collar workers into nursing and other allied health careers. There was talk about doing this many years ago re; the contracting auto industry here. I never met anybody who took advantage of that, and I question how many could actually make it through the training. And I'm supposed to be embarrassed to be in nursing? And they talk about how men can be useful at lifting patients. I'm sorry, Susan, but how do you manage to land any kind of job in these times with that kind of thinking? I've been going through the related comments, some 560 before they closed it, and I'm just getting started but so far everybody thinks this article is way off. Okay, I wanted to stop typing and risking a TLDR but this forum wants a minimum 600 words. I'll fill this up with random comments from the article: Jacksonian Democrat Seattle 13 hours ago I have a friend, a guy, who is a retired nurse anesthetist, and US Army trained. You want to be a great bread winner guys, try this field. He doesn't care if people call him a sissy. These professionals typically earn about 200K per year. Let's see if your wife discourages that. GLC USA 13 hours ago Men Don't Want to Be Nurses. Since when? In 1968 there were eleven male nurses at the 22nd Surgical Hospital in Phu Bai. Three were anesthetists, one was an OR nurse (he had been 101st Airborne, then became a nurse), one was the DON, and the others worked in triage. Their Wives Agree. Really. The gas passers at the local hospital in my flyover village are anesthetists. They are married. To each other. With children. These type of sexist articles continue to tarnish the "brand" of The New York Times. The disclaimer that this is an Op-Ed piece and not a real piece of jurinalism is lame. When you quote pointy heads from academia, you lose your free pass. Truth up, Times. Liz McDougall Calgary, Canada 13 hours ago I say "suck it up buttercup." Nursing Is a fine and noble profession - great education, decent pay, in a variety of work settings. I was a Registered Nurse for 37 years and saw more men entering nursing as the years went by. They make excellent nurses. If the jobs are in health care, why not get the education and try it out. You might just like it. 97Recommend
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    ER rushing patients to the floor

    "I had the ER drop off an actively dying patient to me at the IMCU where I used to work. Pt died 6 hours later." Mmmmmkay. Better to hold that pt in the ED and watch them die down there? Like the ED staff has nothing better to do?
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    Are You Really a Nurse?

    reply to CatCare on previous page - I was having lunch and listening to a group of young people at the next table who were obviously techs. I got a little steamed when they started talking about passing meds, where can techs pass meds?, and I looked and they were wearing t-shirts from a local dog daycare center that offered grooming, boarding and, apparently, veterinary services. Can they call themselves nurses somewhere? I dunno, but I wouldn't have the first idea of what end of a dog to start on so I'll grant them the privilege by default.
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    Are You Really a Nurse?

    Everybody is a nurse. I know this because everybody tells me they're a nurse. It's usually a friend or family member of a patient that I'm preparing to draw blood from and start an IV on, or give meds to, or whatever. The nurse friend becomes the liaison or advocate who explains to the patient and other friends or family what I'm doing. It usually ends with "wait, that's not a butterfly!". No, it's a 20g angiocath. A coworker once told me she handled it with "I'm giving you labetolol, your "nurse" friend can tell you what it's for an any side effects it may have." Yes, I work with some evil nurses, some of whom are actually licensed. Further inquiry always reveals that the nurse is actually a medical assistant, or is on the waiting list for nursing school, or is thinking about taking a phlebotomy class, or watches Gray's Anatomy/Scrubs/ER/whatever, or has a cousin whose neighbor's ex-fiance's brother-in-law met a nurse one time. All that gives everybody free reign to tell me what to do. Oh, and anybody else notice that every time you go out the topic of conversation between the waiter/waitress and the bartender is where they are on the waiting list for nursing school. Here's a tip: if you're a lousy waitress you'll make for a lousy..., oh never mind. Then there was the tech I worked with. She was pre-med, which apparently gave her license to sign off orders with an MD after her name. She was something of a problem. The other techs hated her because she had some education while the rest of them, well, I think they found them at a bus station or someplace similar. And then I heard that she had an affair with a physician but it went bad and she filed grievances, maybe a lawsuit, and it ended up in the papers. Don't get me started on the people who end up being ED techs. I'm picturing the ad - no intelligence or decision making skills or common sense required, must be able to question directives and argue, laziness a plus...
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    HIPAA Violation-Jane Doe

    This is a big problem with electronic charting. It's all too easy to mistakenly click open the wrong chart, or to forget to log out and have someone follow you and chart under your log-in. It happens every day and the antiquated system we use has another flaw that will often open a random chart when a user logs on. I was questioned about why I was in an employee's chart one time. Apparently she voiced a concern about who had accessed her records and an investigation showed that a large number of people uninvolved in her care had been in there. I told them that I had no memory of being in the chart but I was working triage and part of that job involves keeping track of who is in the area and moving them, or I may have just neglected to log out. That was the last I heard of it but when the employee found out how big an investigation it triggered she regretted bringing it up. I know of situations where people got into the files of high profile patients and have been disciplined or terminated but if your institution fired that many people without a thorough investigation, you probably don't want to be working for them anyway.
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    Patients should ALL be swabbed tested for HIV

    While we always inform each other of a pt's positive HIV status in report I don't do anything special beyond that. HIV is not that easy to catch, nothing near hepatitis and, honestly, I take more precautions when I encounter conjunctivitis, scabies or bedbugs.
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    When will they change the name???

    I hate when people call me a "male nurse", and I reply that I am a registered nurse. Some people have trouble getting their heads around it and I have to admit that before I got into health care I might have had a problem with it too, but I've found that the RN title is largely respected. Cops don't give me tickets, when I did jury duty they wanted to make me the foreman, er, foreperson and when I meet people they seem to appreciate that it's not your run of the mill job.
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    Alaris pumps

    The system I work for recently went to the Alaris pumps after ditching the ones made by Baxter. If you've used the Baxters you know what a problem they were but as bad as they were, I want them back. The air in line thing is incredibly frustrating. I've wasted of lot of medicine, sometimes very expensive medicines, trying to clear the lines. Tonight I spent the better of an hour trying to get a potassium infusion going, and that's not the first time. I expect it won't be long before we have a sentinal event because of these pumps. An does it really have to alarm when I shut the door? Hello?, I'm standing right here. That's how it got closed. Another thing is they told us that pumps were specifically programmed not only for our system but for specific departments. Ours are set up for the ER and ICUs, I work the ER, but I noticed that at the community satellite ER where I pick up overtime the pumps are set up wrong. At the main campus the potassium piggybacks are 20meq in 250ml and the pumps at the satellite are set up the same way but they use a 10meq in 100cc concentration, so it's wrong. Otherwise they seem to work pretty well if you can get them going, and they're much easier to program than the Baxters were but they're not much use if it takes an hour to get a drip going. I can't wait until I have to give pressors to a dying pt.