TraumaSurfer replied to adwilcox28's topic in General Nursing
I just brought up the CCT part since you mentioned it and I was replying to your post. I may not be a nurse but I do know if a patient codes inside a hospital the RNs on a code team do not just stand...
TraumaSurfer replied to jedi88's topic in Emergency
We sometimes laugh at the "burgers and fries to saving lives" saying in EMS since many EMS providers are very young with not much work experience except for maybe fast food. However, what we have...
TraumaSurfer replied to adwilcox28's topic in General Nursing
Most of the health care professions require many hours of clinicals which are usually structured although some better than others. EMS lacks that structure and some of you may also have had the...
TraumaSurfer replied to adwilcox28's topic in General Nursing
The one thing that usually makes the CCT RN different from the Paramedic is critical care experience. The "easily" part is not that easy if you have never been inside an ICU. In their training...
TraumaSurfer replied to adwilcox28's topic in General Nursing
per your request. repeat of post #43 and a copy of the response that pretty much sums up the intent of the op; originally posted by adwilcox28 again with the ignorant and uninformed comments. utah...
TraumaSurfer replied to jedi88's topic in Emergency
For private companies maybe but in the states I am familiar with EMS is largely fire based, municipal or county. The retirement package is pretty decent and so is the
TraumaSurfer replied to adwilcox28's topic in General Nursing
Almost every post I did was concerning EMS education. The only time I mentioned nursing education was in a supportive manner for RNs' role in EMS and to show examples of the differences between the...
TraumaSurfer replied to adwilcox28's topic in General Nursing
Now you are just being argumentative and defensive. What about my advice to research the profession being discussed is offensive to you? Looking through this forum I see numerous threads where nurses...
TraumaSurfer replied to adwilcox28's topic in General Nursing
Okay, let me respond this. The other poster was saying after her husband obtained a cert as a Paramedic he continued learning through continuing education or CEUs. My point is that CEUs are...
TraumaSurfer replied to adwilcox28's topic in General Nursing
Maybe it is unfortunate to some that each health care profession isn't an island and then could ignor all the others. However, it wouldn't be controversial if some would know a little bit about each...
TraumaSurfer replied to adwilcox28's topic in General Nursing
it is now easy to see which direction you wanted this discussion to go. why are you calling me ignorant? all of the information i have provided can easily be checked out by just going to the state...
TraumaSurfer replied to adwilcox28's topic in General Nursing
Skills are just part of a profession. The education really needs to be extended. The ED does not deal only with emergency patients. There are many aspects in the nursing education that must be...
TraumaSurfer replied to adwilcox28's topic in General Nursing
Maybe because I a just used to doing this battle at local, state and national levels for a purpose. Your perfect world sounds just like the arguments I get from the unions and the providers who rely...
TraumaSurfer replied to adwilcox28's topic in General Nursing
You brought up MAs first for whatever reason. Why are you talking about unlicensed medical personnel? Surgical Techs? Did you even bother to see how many hours of training your state required for...
TraumaSurfer replied to adwilcox28's topic in General Nursing
If you husband completed a two year degree would that mean he wouldn't do any continuing education? Guess what? It is required for the cert and license. You can stretch out "hours of training" to...
TraumaSurfer replied to adwilcox28's topic in General Nursing
And I am tired of people saying the education is good enough. That is insulting. Take that for what it is worth but the sooner people realize the limitations of EMS education as it is now, the sooner...
TraumaSurfer replied to adwilcox28's topic in General Nursing
what level of education do nps have compared with paramedics? aren't nps considered physician extenders? paramedics are not. how long have you been a paramedic? ever talk with other paramedics, go...
TraumaSurfer replied to adwilcox28's topic in General Nursing
Show me where a 4 year degree is required for the Paramedic. Many schools do not require even an Associates to teach a Paramedic course. Your comparison here is like saying all RNs have an MSN but we...
TraumaSurfer replied to adwilcox28's topic in General Nursing
Prove me wrong. Here are the ALS protocols for your state. They are not much different than any other state for scope of practice. What do the Paramedics in your state do that others do not?...
TraumaSurfer replied to adwilcox28's topic in General Nursing
Interesting point about the CNA2 in your state is that the Paramedics attempted to challenge it and were denied because almost nothing in that certification is covered in a Paramedic
TraumaSurfer replied to adwilcox28's topic in General Nursing
Describe a higher level of care? Paramedics can barely hold their own on some ALS transfers without an RN being placed on the truck due to the limited scope of practice for meds and equipment. SCTs...
TraumaSurfer replied to jedi88's topic in Emergency
Definitely nothing wrong with that. In fact, that is the easiest way for a profession to advance when its own members see a need for more education. We've seen it for all the other professions right...
TraumaSurfer replied to jedi88's topic in Emergency
Kudos for obtaining your degree Does your state require an Associates degree to be a Paramedic? Even Oregon has loopholes to get around that. If Virginia is still your state I believe the minimun...
TraumaSurfer replied to jedi88's topic in Emergency
Do not lump me into the bash the nursing education basket. You have put down the RN's education in almost every post I have debated you on previously and in this thread I have called you out again for...