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  1. samanthaRN

    Vote on unionization of Catholic Healthcare nurses called off

    PS - Even if through years of work by you and your colleagues, you would have had a stronger internal organization than nurses at CHP hospitals, how can you argue that they are better off with no union? Or that the correct use of nurses' dues money is to attack other nurses who have chosen to join a different organization?
  2. samanthaRN

    Vote on unionization of Catholic Healthcare nurses called off

    Please check your facts. This deal only occurred after nurses and other employees fought for it for three years. Check out this editorial in one of the local Ohio papers detailing the kinds of things the employees did to win their vote: http://www.springfieldnewssun.com/o/content/oh/story/opinions/editorial/2008/03/13/sns031308editunion_R.html
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    california nurses association

    I don't trust your answers. I can't understand how you would know so much about both Nevada and Ohio if you're really an impartial observer... If you're not, you should make it clear that you are a cna partisan and are presenting events as the cna has presented them to you. Your answer to number 1 seems like splitting hairs. Why do cards make something more democratic? I've read posts by a CA nurse Sherwood on allnurses.com describing CNA organizers plying nurses with trinkets and pizza. The way I understand the Ohio agreement, no such bribes were allowed. I think bribes are a bigger deal than cards in terms of democracy. (Have a piece of pizza, sign a card honey! It's just a card to show you want us to bring more pizza into your hospital...) No one was trying to persuade nurses either way in Ohio until the CNA showed up. Your answer to number 2 is clearly misleading, as you asked CHP nurses to vote no, anti-union rhetoric if I ever saw any. This is on the pdf that is posted on your website. If seiu asked nurses to vote no, that's sad, but it is not an excuse for you to hurt nurses in Ohio. Nurses should care which union represents nurses and hospital employees in their state; without uniting lots of nurses in their own state how can they make their voice heard in politics? As for #4, if a few nurses working with the CNA for a while makes seiu's interference in Nevada troubling, then 3 years of work with SEIU at chp makes CNA's interference even more troubling.
  4. samanthaRN

    california nurses association

    Nice attempt to railroad me. I don't know the facts in Nevada. I live in Ohio, not in Nevada. It is clear that you are using a beef that you have with SEIU to justify hurting Ohio RNs. Now I have some questions for you about Nevada: 1) What were the ground rules the election was conducted under? Was it an agreement with the hospital company, like the agreement CNA is using to criticize seiu? 2) Was SEIU campaigning for RNs to vote no, or was it campaigning for RNs to choose SEIU over CNA? 3) Which organization represent rNs already in Nevada, seiu, CNA, or neither? 4) How long had workers been engaged with the CNA?
  5. samanthaRN

    CNA's Union-Busting in Ohio-An Open Letter

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    california nurses association

    Way to make it personal. I feel harassed for having a differing opinion, backed up by facts, on this issue. Since when does supporting nurses right to have a union warrant an accusation of being a paid union staff member? Based on your posts on this forum and yoru apparent disregard for the chp nurses in Ohio, I could ask you the same questions.
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    CNA's Union-Busting in Ohio-An Open Letter

    It sounds to me like CNA has a beef with SEIU. This is not about the history of these two unions in Reno or in California. What I have seen in thread after thread on www.allnurses.com on this issue is nurses who actually work at the CHP hospitals devastated that the CNA showed up univited and poisoned the well so that these elections had to be cancelled. I have been moved by the voices of these courageous nurses, and saddened by the negativity and often contradictory justifications for union busting put forth by CNA supporters. I cannot believe that CNA just showed up with a couple of volunteers and "passed out a couple of fliers" that "raised legitimate questions." Here's why: the CNA supporters offering justification for their actions in Ohio are brimming with anti-SEIU hatred and vitriol -- it literally drips from their posts. I would bet that they did everything they could think of to bring tension and confusion into those CHP hospitals, and that they used every resource at their disposal to do so. Also, the sadness that comes from the CHP nurses seems genuine. It seems like the sadness of nurses who knew that they were going to win and had that taken from them by other nurses and staff of a supposed nurses organization.
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    RN's deserve a real choice

    Here's a quote from one of the CHP nurses fred456 from another thread. Seems to me like the nurses picked seiu, and are angry at the intervention by cna and ona: SEIU was not hand picked The vote was not called off because of none support, but was called off because of the interruption of patient care caused by the NNOC/CNA. The NNOC says 'SEIU was forced to cancel rigged election after protests by RNs and other employees.' Not true!! The cancellation of the election is not a huge blow to SEIU or CHP. We will have our election later. It has only been postponed. So NNOC/CNA stay in california. The nurses in OHIO believe in professionalism and empowering their nurses to make decision, not being bullied.
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    SEIU Agrees to Gag Nursing Home Workers

    I am a little curious about the intent of this thread. My understanding is that RNs are rarely part of a union at a nursing home. What does CNA/NNOC propose doing to help non-RN nursing home workers? My understanding is that CNA/NNOC does not make a habit of trying to help non-nurses organize. Maybe this is just another effort to demonize seiu?
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    CNA's Union-Busting in Ohio-An Open Letter

    There is no evidence that only 15 employees supported the union in this case. There is evidence that zero employees supported the CNA/NNOC, since they did not have even the one signed union card that is required to get on the ballot. The employees who put their name on this letter should be honored, not ridiculed. They have already been stripped of their chance to have a union, now they are smeared as stooges for seiu. Very inappropriate in my opinion. What is the number/percentage of employees who have to put themselves out as seiu supporters there without the protection of a union contract before the cna/nnoc admits that what happened here was union busting and apologizes for its actions? Do nurses have to be willing to strike to prove that they want the cna/nnoc to leave them alone? Who gave the cna the right to try to bust this up in the name of nurses who did not ask for their interference?
  11. samanthaRN

    Vote on unionization of Catholic Healthcare nurses called off

    Didn't CNA show up at the CHP hospitals without one card being signed? None of the rationalizations for CNA's union busting in Ohio remedy the disappointment and loss suffered by the CHP nurses who are now much further away from having any union at all.
  12. samanthaRN

    SEIU Vote at Ohio Catholic Healthcare Partners

    There is evidence all over this blog of nurses at CHP who protested the presence of the CNA and fought (and are still fighting) to unite as SEIU members. Since when should nurses have to fight against disruptive tactics and misleading information in order to form a union? Shouldn't it be nurses' own choice? It seems like some of us are trying to rationalize the NNOC/CNA's union busting here. BTW, the above post is an implicit admission that the CNA/NNOC's tactics in this case were union busting.
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    RN's deserve a real choice

    The above does not appear to be based on facts; it appears to be a press release from the CNA. Here's a quote from a nurse who works at one of these hospitals from another thread on allnurses.com: Mar 12, 2008, 02:59 PM Diamax2 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Re: SEIU Vote at Ohio Catholic Healthcare Partners permalink As an RN at an Ohio Catholic Health Partners hospital, I have been aware of SEIU's attempts over the past 3 years to unionize and CHP has fought the union every step of the way, including mandatory films we had to sit through telling us why we didn't need a union. According to the newspapers, there was a class action lawsuit by CHP employees....aided by SEIU...who were denied lunch breaks and other such oversights. They apparently won some type of settlement against CHP and an agreement to allow a union vote was reached. I am aware of no efforts by any other union to organize the employees in my hospital so it came as a total shock to find these California people invading our hospitals, getting their literature into locked lounges, and onto floors they should not have been on.....just days before the election. Since when has a democratic vote for a union ever been considered imposing a union on employees?! The votes could have gone either way. What they have done is deny us any vote at all....a huge disappointment to those of us who don't like being totally at the mercy of management and how they want to interpret their polices, to which we have no input. I don't know how this California group could possibly get any more unprofessional. I would rather have NO union than to ever see them representing me.
  14. samanthaRN

    california nurses association

    Since when does having a difference of opinion make one a shill? I could say that many of the posters on this thread seem to be shills for the CNA.
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    CNA's Union-Busting in Ohio-An Open Letter

    Any rational nurse knows that "union choice" is unhelpful. Having more than one union on the ballot makes it more difficult for nurses to have any union at all, because a majority must still vote for one union to be union. For example, 70% of nurses could vote union, but if they were split between union A and union B, nurses would still be non-union. Arguments about union choice are nonsensical in the case of the CNA's union busting in Ohio, because there was only one union on the ballot. The choice was SEIU or no union. All CNA needed to be on the ballot was one card at each of the affected hospitals; they had zero because in the whole three years these nurses had been organizing, CNA had not approached any of these nurses about choosing it over SEIU. As for the argument that CNA should not have been able to derail the election campaign if there was true support, I find that bogus as well. I have looked at their flier online, and it is clearly a product of much effort and expense. It is nastier than anything I have ever seen from hospital management in terms of anti-union assertions. I am confident than cNA did everything they could think of to divide and confuse these nurses. How were the CHP nurses supposed to be prepared to defend against union-busting by another union? Who could ever have imagined such a tactic? And by an organization that represents ZERO union nurses in this state? I wonder how many out of state organizers CNA sent into these hospitals? 30? More?
  16. samanthaRN

    Vote on unionization of Catholic Healthcare nurses called off

    Why not listen to the nurses who actually work at the CHP hospitals? Read this quote from a CHP nurse (incidentally, posted in this same thread). Some of you claim that nurses did not know what was going on and that you speak for a majority of the CHP employees, yet you provide no evidence, just assertions. All over allnurses.com I have seen posts by nurses who actually work at these facilities and all of them express devastation that CNA swooped in without being invited and slung mud until these elections were compromised. Use whatever labor law rationalizations you want, what happened at these hospitals was union busting, by a union no less.