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    Any PhD in Nursing Applicants?

    Hi All! It's been a quiet thread lately, so I thought I'd bump us up to the top again! How is everyone doing? I'm still working on my MS in nursing (Nurse-Midwifery), but have definitely found my passion in research. I've been invited to be a research assistant on a really cool NIH-funded project that deals with maternal/fetal health. I'm so excited! My advisor (who is also the chair of my program) is pushing me to go into the PhD program. I WANT to do it, but I'm just afraid to jump in. Does that make sense? My husband has his PhD and he is highly amused by my wishy-washiness (if that's a word) over the matter. How are the current PhD students doing? Did you all earn your MS or MSN first, or did you sort of merge into the PhD program with your MS? Hope you are all doing well!
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    starting wage columbus ohio

    I work for Ohio Health, and I'm pretty sure that the starting hourly rate is $23.21 (that could be off by a few cents, but that's pretty close). Shift differential is $4.75 and weekend differential is also $4.75. Hope that helps!
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    Any PhD in Nursing Applicants?

    Hi Everyone! I have been reading this thread with interest and thought I'd drop in and say hello. I'm currently an MSN student working to become a CNM/WHNP. I also work part-time as an L&D nurse. The last few months at work and school, I've been thinking strongly about applying to the PhD program. I am a student at a large research institution, so it offers a strong PhD program and happens to also have a research focus in maternal/child nursing (which would be my area of interest). My advisor jumped when I suggested I might like to apply for the PhD program and seemed to imply that it would be an easy transition. I am realizing more and more that my real interest lies in the research behind my practice. I'm always questioning our practice and wondering why we do things the way we do them. I've always been interested in that, but it's becoming abundantly clear that this is where my true passion in women's health actually exists. So I'm strongly leaning toward exploring this option and hopefully going forward with that. Anway, best of luck to you all and I'm excited to read that there are others out there with similar goals!
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    Anyone enter CNM with little to no nursing experience?

    So far in my experience working in L&D, those restrictions are really only applied to women who are receiving interventions in their labor (or having an issue with fetal heart tones). A healthy woman who is in spontaneous labor without medication (Pit or pain meds) does not necessarily need to stay on the monitor continuously and can definitely get up to use the restroom. Even if she is on the monitor, she can sit on a birthing ball or in a rocking chair (or stand at the bedside) if that is more comfortable for her. Women on the monitor can also get up to use the restroom (it is an easy thing to disconnect the monitor for a few minutes and reconnect when they get back to bed). If she chooses an epidural, then yes she has to be confined to bed with continuous monitoring (she becomes a fall risk) and will need to be straight-cathed periodically. Not only will she be unable to walk to the bathroom, but she most likely will not feel the urge to void (a full bladder will impede the labor process). This is where an L&D nurse can make a great deal of impact--regular and creative position changes can really help with labor progression. I've learned some great tips on how to facilitate the decent of a baby who is posterior or still really high, or for a woman who is not dilating--all with position changes. Again, these aren't textbook ideas, they were taught to me by nurses with years of experience.
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    Anyone enter CNM with little to no nursing experience?

    Now THAT is very true. I find myself in the minority a lot of the time and do have moments where I am appalled/shocked/stunned/saddened at some of the routines on a L&D unit. I try to extrapolate the good stuff and remember the bad for when I'm in a position to make some changes.
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    Anyone enter CNM with little to no nursing experience?

    I agree with you and believe that everyone who becomes a CNM with some sort of life-experience (which we all have!) brings something valuable to the table. However, I do have to say that experience as an L&D nurse (or any type of nurse, for that matter) is a lot more than simply going through the motions of assisting with delivery. I worked as an RN in critical care for several years and have now spent 6 months in L&D. I now see that intangible strength that experience can bring--those gut feelings that can't be learned from a textbook or during clinical experiences. Those wise nurses I work with who have done it for years and years give me a ton of insight that I am so grateful to get--insight learned from years on the job and assisting with thousands of births. Insight that I am slowly developing on my own as well. Although the holistic approach to midwifery is SO IMPORTANT, at that moment when I experience my first shoulder dystocia or other emergency, I'm going to go back into this current experience for strength. And while strip reading isn't so important when you are in a birth-center or assisting with home births (since women aren't continuously monitored), it is super important in a hospital setting. Learning to read strips is, again, an artfrom that takes years to master. The basics can be learned in a few days, but the experienced nurses can look at a strip and tell a whole lot more about the labor than is initially apparent to a new nurse. I have a year-and a-half until I finish my CNM program and I am SO GRATEFUL for this time working on L&D. I'm certainly not saying that it should be a requirement, but it also shouldn't be discounted as a valuable tool.
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    Upcoming male CNM student seeking perspective

    I'm very excited for you! I can't directly speak to the demand for male CNM's, but I can put you in touch with someone who might offer perspective? Ohio State's Nurse-Midwifery program is chaired by a man, and he's doing great things with the program and taking it in new directions (he's only had that position for about a year now). If you PM me, I'd be happy to share his contact information with you. Best wishes!!
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    Are midwives using statistics?

    You will definitely need to refer back to statistics while in grad school. You'll take a research course and a theory course at the minimum, and I've used my stats in a few other graduate level courses as well. Basic statistics like p-values and t-tests don't change, so a statistics book is a great reference to have on the shelf for a quick review! I also use my statistics book to assist in paper-writing and research critiques. Sadly (or not, if you like stats!), it will be a big part of your graduate nurse-midwifery program. Also, depending on where you do your graduate program, there is a very good chance you'll be required to take another (graduate level) statistics class. Good luck--statistics has a bad reputation, but it really isn't as bad as people like to claim!
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    CNM Applicant - Lack of Direct Experience?

    Are you planning to apply to a graduate entry program (an MS in nursing with a specialization in midwifery for non-nurses with a BA or BS in a non-nursing field), or get your RN and then apply to a CNM program? From what I understand, prior birth experience isn't really expected from applicants to the grad entry programs. Grades and class diversity (a variety of academic backgrounds) seem very important. Depending on the state you live in, another option is the CM (Certified Midwife). The CM is accreditedy by the ACNM (American College of Nurse-Midwives) just like the CNM, but is designed as a route into midwifery for non-nurses (applicants must have a BA or BS and have certain prereqs finished). They have the same scope of practice and licensure process, but they aren't nurses. A handful of states are currently licensing CM's and I believe that will increase. I just read in the ACNM newsletter 'Quickening' that Phildelphia University was just accredited to begin a distance CM program starting this fall. That might be another option to consider! Good luck on your journey!
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    Vanderbilt question

    I don't have specific experience with Vanderbilt's program, but I do know that the ACNM (American College of Nurse-Midwives), which is the accrediting body for CNM programs is very strict regarding academic standards for their programs. So, Vanderbilt would have to follow the rules set forth by the ACNM. I'm sure that anyone who graduates from their nurse-midwifery program would be well-qualified. Are you wanting to provide primary care to the whole family, or just women? A CNM is qualified to provide primary care to her patients throughout their lifespan, so if you are only planning to see female patients in that type of setting, you don't need to have the FNP certification (if you don't want to get it right away). Good luck!
  11. Yes, you can be admitted with less than a 3.0, but you must maintain a 3.0 to stay in school.
  12. Just as an FYI--the 3.0 requirement is standard minimum grade for all graduate schools (including Frontier).
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    Frontier CNM after previous FNP?

    I am a Frontier CNEP student. I know that there is a woman in my class who is a practicing FNP. She said that the transition into the program was seemless and I believe it is taking her less than 2 years to finish. I hope that helps a little! I'm sure that the admissions office can offer more wisdom, but I just wanted to let you know that it can be done! I love Frontier and am very happy with my education!
  14. I second that! I am 37 and have just completed my first year of the program! I have one child and work part-time. I am a part-time student in the program and find it manageable. Not easy, but manageable! There are quite a few students older and younger than me, and most of them have children. If it is your dream, then you are never too old! Good luck!
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    Question about Frontier: CNEP

    CNEP at Frontier stands for "Community Based Nurse-Midwifery Education Program". It is the nurse-midwifery track at Frontier and one of the three tracks available there (they also offer FNP and WHNP--Women's Healthcare Nurse Practitioner). If you apply to Frontier, you apply to a specific track and graduate with an MSN in that specialty. If you already have an MSN, you can apply to the Post-Master's program in any of the specialy tracks, including CNEP. Frontier does not offer a generic MSN. I hope that helps!