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    Too Much Time on Their Hands

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    Becoming a nurse is no longer an option for me?

    I think it's wrong to judge the mother, we don't know all the facts. It could be her mom is just a terrible person attempting to try and keep her from accomplishing her goals for some selfish reason, but it could also be that the mother has a good reason we're not privy too. For example maybe this teen is really bright and had some opportunity she declined or failed to pursue because she thought to take the easier, softer, faster route and just borrow from the feds which as an American citizen is her god given right entitlement don't you know. Perhaps her mother feels she could have avoided taking on debt altogether had her daughter only applied for more merit based awards, considered some of the other many debt free option ways to finance and pursue her education. Or maybe it's not even about money... Maybe her mother has other unselfish reasons for making the decision she has point is we just can't know and without all the facts I don't think the best thing we can be doing here to help is to pity the supposed victim” and continue to bash the mother, make wide sweeping judgements, assumptions about her character. Bottom line as long as the teen is a minor her mother is well within her rights to decide whether she can or cannot attend college, can or cannot drive a car, should or should not take on a sizeable amount of debt for any purpose reason whatsoever, and so on and so forth. What's more even after she is 18 years old so long as she continues to live under her parent's roof they have the right to forbid her to do anything they believe for whatever reason is not in her best interests and for all we know there very well may be some valid reasons why he mother does not at this point believe what her daughter is attempting/planning for herself is in her best interests. What if this teen comes from a very religious home and could attend a religious college at no cost to her, entirely at her parent's expense but wants to go to a liberal school where values the parents do not approve of, agree with will certainly be flouted – should they be forced to pay for their child's little foray into hedonism? Should they be obligated to provide their financial information so she can use it to make what they believe is a poor choice, even immoral decision? Currently the law says students must provide their parents information when they apply for financial aid, however I'm not aware of any laws that make it illegal for parents to refuse to provide it. As for whether or not to pursue a CNA or LPN, while I don't think it would be wise as a stopping point there is no reason why a person who is worried about money shouldn't attempt to achieve those certifications along the way as they work their way towards becoming an RN. In fact more and more nursing schools are refusing to admit students into nursing programs either LPN or RN who don't have at least some experience working as a n aide or at least volunteering in some type of healthcare setting in some capacity. Many LPN programs that do admit students without such experience have a component where first quarter LPN students learn all they know to get their CNA and many LPN students work as aides on weekends and holidays while pursuing their LPN. Most RN programs in this country teach students all they need to know to get their LPN after the first year of the RN program. Many schools offer LPN to RN bridge programs. It is easier to pursue an RN if you don't have to work but if you have to work it can be done. While it's true an LPN is not going to give a person the same options as an RN it's still a lot better to be a new LPN capable of earning in 16-20 dollar an hour range working in a nursing home, correctional facility, or VA on weekends and holidays while pursuing an RN than slaving away at some at some McJob at minimum wage, for nine dollars and some odd cents an hour. No one is suggesting she shouldn't pursue an RN. However if money is an issue it is entirely possible for a young person to go to school and become an LPN entirely free and then use that as a stepping stone to get there. People are just pointing out that there are options and if you really want to attend college taking out loans is only one of many, many, ways to get there. If this teen really has it all that bad she could right now leave and go to Job Corp. Or she'll be 18 shortly she can join the delayed enlistment program enter any branch of the military she wants to right now and they will accept her into the service guaranteed contingent upon her finishing high school. If she's smart and does well on her ASVAB she can be a hospital corpsman and get both an A and a C school guaranteed to her in writing upfront before she even ships off for basic with a six year enlistment if she goes Navy. Or she could apply for a National Health Service scholarship if she's truly an exceptional student her grades are high. For every year they pay for her books and tuition she would have to agree to serve a year working in an underprivileged area but she could graduate with a four year degree and owe little to nothing. There are a lot of options and that's all people are trying to say – she has options.
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    Q about vacations/days off

    Though I suppose you would probably be allowed some sick days or time off for bereavement I wouldn't think as a part time school nurse you would get a lot. Also why would you need to pull your child out of school and interrupt his education to go to dizzy-land when you would have all school holidays (including a long Thanksgiving, long Christmas/New Years and long spring break as well as all summers off? Plus you'd also have lots of parent teacher conference days here and there off making for quite a few three day weekends as well.
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    Working Full-time for the first couple of semesters?

    I don't know about working as an RN student but I did it while working towards my LPN. Since I didn't have a car I had to spend 15 hours a week on the bus just to get to school and back. I was in school M-F for about 6 hours a day. Generally spent two hours on campus M-F to study before and after class, and I still managed to work 2 to 4 hours 2-4 days a week and 12 - 20 hours on the weekends. I do think my grades might have been better though if I'd had a vehicle and only had to spend 15 minutes each way commuting to school as opposed to commuting an hour and a half each way every day and hadn't also had to work. Though my grades weren't bad with as competitive as getting into an RN program has become, I don't think I'd stand much of a chance. If you are going for a 2 year RN with hopes of one day pursuing a BSN, or are planning on doing your BSN first and then later going for your masters that's something you might want to consider - even though you might be able to work and pass would you be able to keep your grades up high enough to be competitive for some other school/program later down the line?
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    HELP! 2nd time taking NCLEX-PN. I feel so unprepared.

    The best advice I have to offer is if you know you are not prepared, which you do because of your low scores on the practice exams, and you you are not ready to take the test don't take it. There's nothing you can do this close to the deadline to fix what's wrong. Try and see if you can reschedule the test. If that's not possible all you can really do is go in, do the best you can. If you fail then you might want to consider hiring a private tutor, ideally someone to work with you one on one who aced their boards, has experience as a nurse. Good luck.
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    4th time test taker (I hate to admit it)

    I think you rushed, crammed for your second attempt way too soon. I've always heard nursing instructors advise against students who've failed their boards, whether LPN or RN, giving in to the urge to re-take the NCLEX too soon. Most I've known over the years have advised waiting 4-6 months and even then most say 6 months is best and they only reluctantly say 4 just because most who fail simply refuse to wait as long as hopefully, ideally the instructors wish they would. Sometimes people who re-test quickly after the first failed attempt pass, but instructors I've spoken with about it say for most who fail, it takes more studying than just the 45 days to couple of months to really get strong in those areas where they've proven to be weak. Yes in that short amount of time you can temporarily quickly learn the material to do well on practice exams as you go a long but to really learn and retain it takes much longer. Also what people who fail typically do is buddy up with classmates to study or join some type of formal study group. However in general the instructors I've known said if you fail the best thing you can do is find a tutor who has taken the NCKEX exam you are sitting for who has aced their boards and to do one on one tutoring with them. For any student who has failed boards more than twice all instructors I've known have advised the test taker be tested for learning disabilities as well as receive a psychological examination. This because even though the tendency is to believe, think that if someone has what it takes to make it through nursing school with passing grades they must not have a learning disability or any sort of emotional issues, hang ups sometimes, particularly if a person is bright both can go silently undetected until something of this nature – sitting for the NCLEX, the ASVAB or some other, similar comprehensive type exam comes up. I have even known a man who wasn't aware of having a disability until he sat for the LSAT and another guy who though not diagnosed with a learning disorder didn't find out until he was in his 30's that the minor” little thing hindering his ability to succeed in life/ace his MCAT with ease way back when was called bipolar disorder. So I think no matter the grades in school or I.Q. if a person repeatedly fails their nursing boards the instructors I've known were right and people really should have the assessments done however instead most of those they advised unfortunately did not listen and instead just rushed into re-taking the exam- three, four – however many times. I think the danger in that is it erodes self-esteem and makes it more and more difficult for the test taker to have faith, belief in them self with each successive failed attempt. You can't really do anything about the past but what you can do is begin again and do it differently. I think you need to study 4-6 months one on one with a tutor who is an RN and has aced the NCLEX. Get into counseling to make sure you are not sabotaging yourself and to learn ways of managing your test taking anxiety if that's an issue for you, definitively rule out learning disabilities and if something does turn up well if you are studying 4-6 months to prepare with good tutor then this will give you time to address anything that might turn up. You might only need longer to take your exam or a quiet room to yourself without distractions or some other reasonable type accommodation. You know I did okay in school and did very well on my NCLEX but that didn't mean being a nurse was easy for me because there's a really big difference between doing good in school or well on an exam and being a good nurse. I have throughout my life, time and time again learned a lot from nurses who didn't do as well in school as I did, who scored much, much, much lower on their NCLEX than I did. The fact of the matter is once you get out on the floor it's a whole new world. Sometimes nurses who did really well in school do really well on the floor, other times they completely flop. I've seen it go both ways. I went to school with people who did better in class than I did who when we were out on the floor had a worse time of it than I. I don't think just because you've failed four times you can't become a good nurse because I think you are repeating the same things that are causing you to fail over and over instead of implementing new strategies. If every time you tried you did something dramatically different and still continued to fail then I'd probably take it as a really big sign that perhaps nursing wasn't for you. Doing the same old same old no I think you just need to consider a new approach. You know what hasn't worked, so be good to yourself and stop doing it. And quit comparing yourself with other people because in the end it doesn't really matter what worked for them when it comes to passing this test the only thing that matters is what will work for you. Good luck.
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    Thinking of going back into nursing....

    I don't see any reason why you shouldn't get back into nursing. I went back after being away much longer and if I could do it I don't see any reason why you can't. During those six years did you keep your license current, place it on inactive status or allow it to lapse?
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    Becoming a nurse is no longer an option for me?

    I skimmed so I might have missed it but did anybody mention Job Corp? Job Corp is throughout the country but different campuses in different places offer different training. Some centers only offer CNA but others offer LPN. Basically when you join Job Corp you get a place to stay, and a stipend, little bit of spending money each month. You'll live in a dorm and either go to school or to job training. If you don't have a high school diploma or a GED they'll help you finish either. Living accommodations really depend on which Job Corp you go to. In most places you will share a room with one or two others your age, but some places have larger dorms. Generally two to a room though is the norm. You would eat meals there, they have laundry facilities. If you don't have a car that's not an issue because you could choose a campus that is in a city with bus transportation. You can check the link below to see if there is a Job Corp program offering LPN training in your state and if not see if there is a center in a nearby or even distant state you wouldn't mind moving to at least temporarily to get through school. Free LPN Training by State Click on your state and search, for my state the Job Corp info was all the way at the bottom so be sure and scroll down. Even though some schools offer the CNA as a standalone program without the LPN I would not recommend that. It would be better to enroll in a Job Corp that offers the CNA and LPN program together. You don't have to go to the Job Corp nearest you. Once you have your LPN you'll probably have to work in a nursing home to gain some experience as the hospitals have replaced LPNs, hiring patient care techs whom they can pay several dollars an hour less. However once you have a couple of years of experience you can work in home health, schools, hospice, corrections just to name a few places and even without a great deal of experience many places hire LPNs to work in clinics and offices though the pay tends to be a lot less. If you have your LPN you can work in any state regardless of which state you are licensed in through the Veterans Administration. If you get good grades as an LPN you can apply for scholarships to pursue your RN. You could apply for National Health Service Scholarship if you're an exceptional student. You could find out do you like nursing enough to pursue your RN and if so determine whether or not you want to join the military. You wouldn't have to go full time you could join the reserves Army or Navy if medical/healthcare is your interest. Also do a google search for youth employment services in your state. There might be programs to help young people find work, access job training in your state. You can also call Unemployment (in some places it's called Work Source) and ask what programs they have designed to help young people, teens. Good luck.