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  1. Doctoral degree to become an NP???

    platon20 replied to VickyRN's topic in Doctoral Nursing Degrees

    It proves they dont have full equivalence with doctors, which is EXACTLY what markdanurse is talking about. His point was that unless the DNP program allows NPs to reach FULL equivalence with...

  2. The business of being a CRNA

    platon20 replied to krzysiu's topic in Certified Registered Nurse Anesthetist, CRNA

    I tell you what. Lets have a friendly wager. I'll post a poll on studentdoctor.com and let them decide this. I'll ask how many of their med schools have required business

  3. The business of being a CRNA

    platon20 replied to krzysiu's topic in Certified Registered Nurse Anesthetist, CRNA

    I know someone at Loyola, I'll ask her about it. My point stands. Business classes are NOT a regular part of the med school curriculum. Some schools let you take electives in any subject you want, but...

  4. Doctoral degree to become an NP???

    platon20 replied to VickyRN's topic in Doctoral Nursing Degrees

    Oh come on, you know what I'm getting at, quit using semantics. But I'll play your game: If you know any NPs who are department chairs in these fields, by all means let me know: Rheumatology...

  5. Doctoral degree to become an NP???

    platon20 replied to VickyRN's topic in Doctoral Nursing Degrees

    Yes NPs can compete with MDs, but not on all levels. NPs cant do surgeries yet, for example. Mark is talking about competition at ALL LEVELS, not just primary care. Mark is talking about NPs being...

  6. The business of being a CRNA

    platon20 replied to krzysiu's topic in Certified Registered Nurse Anesthetist, CRNA

    NO they dont. Dude I know people at 7 different medical schools, and NONE of them take any business classes or lectures. Now, some schools might offer you the opportunity to take electives in any...

  7. The business of being a CRNA

    platon20 replied to krzysiu's topic in Certified Registered Nurse Anesthetist, CRNA

    what the hell are you talking about? med schools dont teach a damn thing about

  8. Tactics for Selling Yourself

    platon20 replied to DaisyRN, ACNP's topic in Nurse Practitioners, NP

    Why do you need to be hired by doctors? Just go directly to the hospital management and ask them to hire you. NPs have full independence. They should be able to hire you directly without getting any...

  9. Do you think NP independance push may backfire on us?

    platon20 replied to PNP2005's topic in Nurse Practitioners, NP

    sure, but thats also true of all the nursing organizations too. legislative battles are ALWAYS about money, power control, no matter what group of providers you are talking

  10. Doctoral degree to become an NP???

    platon20 replied to VickyRN's topic in Doctoral Nursing Degrees

    Sorry you are wrong. There is no evidence that longer training leads to better clinical outcomes. Take for example CRNAs vs MDAs and NPs vs MDs IN both cases, the nurses have substantially less...

  11. Doctoral degree to become an NP???

    platon20 replied to VickyRN's topic in Doctoral Nursing Degrees

    I agree with markdanurse. Look guys the bottom line is there is a whole helluva lot of degree inflation going on here. It started with doctors. They decided that they wanted to elevate their degree...

  12. NP's having to get a PhD

    platon20 replied to marvinskbaby1's topic in Nurse Practitioners, NP

    One of hte main arguments that have helped NPs is that they are more cost effective than doctors. If we switch over to full DNP programs, we lose some of that argument. More schooling = more in debt...

  13. how much $ is too much

    platon20 replied to PTU2SLP's topic in Certified Registered Nurse Anesthetist, CRNA

    The problem with that logic is the lazy, greedy american public thinks healthcare is a RIGHT, not a privilege. They believe they are entitled to free healthcare. If everybody believed that NBA...

  14. how much $ is too much

    platon20 replied to PTU2SLP's topic in Certified Registered Nurse Anesthetist, CRNA

    Unfortunately for docs and CRNAs, the USA is evetnually going to switch to socialized medicine. Its really only a matter of time. When that happens, and it WILL happen, some government bureaucrat is...

  15. Why havent CRNAs pushed MDAs out yet?

    platon20 posted a topic in Certified Registered Nurse Anesthetist, CRNA

    OK, guys correct me if I'm wrong, but: 1) No state in the country requires MDA supervision 2) CRNAs work independently in all 50 states So, if this is true, why are so many hospitals still using a...

  16. AANA members

    platon20 replied to heartICU's topic in Certified Registered Nurse Anesthetist, CRNA

    I'm not a CRNA, I'm an NP in another field so I dont care if you pump out millions of new grads. Just remember what I said though.... if CRNAs start pumping out everywhere, WAGE SUPPRESSION will be...

  17. AANA members

    platon20 replied to heartICU's topic in Certified Registered Nurse Anesthetist, CRNA

    It seems to me the AANA wants to drastically increase the numbers of CRNAs so they will be able to compete directly against MDAs and replace them. This is a very STUPID idea. Yes, more CRNAs will be...

  18. I didn't get all this education to wipe behinds!

    platon20 replied to SeekingNur's topic in General Nursing

    There are not enough CNAs to completely take over all personal patient care tasks. If you want CNAs to do it, you will have to build more CNA programs, pay higher wages, and do a lot more active...

  19. Doctoral degree to become an NP???

    platon20 replied to VickyRN's topic in Doctoral Nursing Degrees

    Agree 100%. I dont know why we pay these NP programs tens of thousands of dollars in tuition, and they dont even provide us with clinical preceptors? What the hell are we paying them for? Its an...

  20. Doctoral degree to become an NP???

    platon20 replied to VickyRN's topic in Doctoral Nursing Degrees

    sorry but thats wrong. 99% of med schools require a 4 year bachelors degree. there are a couple of exceptions made to combined undergraduate/medical programs, and some other minor exceptions. so...

  21. Doctoral degree to become an NP???

    platon20 replied to VickyRN's topic in Doctoral Nursing Degrees

    Even DNPs cant come out and say directly that they compete against doctors. Because if they said that, it means they are practicing medicine and not nursing. State nursing boards have no power to...

  22. Doctoral degree to become an NP???

    platon20 replied to VickyRN's topic in Doctoral Nursing Degrees

    NPs ALREADY HAVE INDEPENDENT PRACTICE! Why would we want to get a doctorate just for that? Doctorate for nurses makes very little sense. If htey are going to make the training that long, you might as...

  23. When Docs Cover Up Surgical Errors

    platon20 replied to Nurse-o-Matic's topic in General Nursing

    She could lose her job, absolutely. But honestly in today's job market thats not really a big deal. A nurse who gets fired could easily get 10 job offers the same day. There is ahuge nursing...

  24. When Docs Cover Up Surgical Errors

    platon20 replied to Nurse-o-Matic's topic in General Nursing

    YOu misread me. Of course nurses get sued occassionally, but its nowhere in the same universe as doctors. Nurses dont have "deep pockets." Nurses are generally covered by hospital insurance...

  25. Where are the nurse's GREAT benefits???

    platon20 replied to minnib's topic in General Nursing

    YOu cant compare nurses to policemen, firemen, teachers, and other public servants because they are employees of the government. Private sector jobs like nurses generally dont give the type of...