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  1. For-Profit, Nonselective NP Schools are Hurting Our Reputation and Credibility

    nitenurse replied to DNPgrad2022's topic in Nurse Practitioners, NP

    Sure am and have been for years; I started in a level 1 trauma center ER and went from there. And I'm not following the rest of your statement. I asked questions that were and still not have been...

  2. For-Profit, Nonselective NP Schools are Hurting Our Reputation and Credibility

    nitenurse replied to DNPgrad2022's topic in Nurse Practitioners, NP

    There is quite a bit missing from that broad critique. Are these new graduates? What is the population focus? Bloated with what? certifications? If a NP/AAP doesn't fit the bill as you claim, then why...

  3. For-Profit, Nonselective NP Schools are Hurting Our Reputation and Credibility

    nitenurse replied to DNPgrad2022's topic in Nurse Practitioners, NP

    1. Seeing them and treating them are two different things. They see them to refer them so I don't count that as an actionable item since nothing diagnostically significant was performed. The exception...

  4. For-Profit, Nonselective NP Schools are Hurting Our Reputation and Credibility

    nitenurse replied to DNPgrad2022's topic in Nurse Practitioners, NP

    Then why bother responding? Find your previous post and copy and paste if you feel that strongly about it otherwise read and keep going. . . . Which they absolutely do, however, when you look...

  5. For-Profit, Nonselective NP Schools are Hurting Our Reputation and Credibility

    nitenurse replied to DNPgrad2022's topic in Nurse Practitioners, NP

    No, I did not say that, imply that or anything close to it. I stated that minimum standards are set by nursing boards as demonstrated here: And the licensing boards determine what is easy...

  6. For-Profit, Nonselective NP Schools are Hurting Our Reputation and Credibility

    nitenurse replied to DNPgrad2022's topic in Nurse Practitioners, NP

    Each credential has its own standards, however, the a lot of the posters here are pointing finger at the schools for setting the 500 minimum clinical hour and its not the school, its the board that...

  7. For-Profit, Nonselective NP Schools are Hurting Our Reputation and Credibility

    nitenurse replied to DNPgrad2022's topic in Nurse Practitioners, NP

    Yes, I know. I just used this as example. I didn't have time to dig through the COA document to look for the specific guidance. The whole point of the mid-levels was so that the MDs can concentrate...

  8. For-Profit, Nonselective NP Schools are Hurting Our Reputation and Credibility

    nitenurse replied to DNPgrad2022's topic in Nurse Practitioners, NP

    Perhaps but that is any specialty in any discipline. There are hospitals and LTCs that will hire new nurse grads, put them through their 'boot camp' and send them on their way. Are they poorly...

  9. For-Profit, Nonselective NP Schools are Hurting Our Reputation and Credibility

    nitenurse replied to DNPgrad2022's topic in Nurse Practitioners, NP

    Maybe but the scope of practice between the two are vastly different. Increasing the amount of hours and education defeats the purpose and point of a mid-level

  10. For-Profit, Nonselective NP Schools are Hurting Our Reputation and Credibility

    nitenurse replied to DNPgrad2022's topic in Nurse Practitioners, NP

    You could if you were just doing colonoscopies. A lot of posters want to point the finger at the schools, however, its the boards of nursing that set the standards. So, if the board says 200 hours are...

  11. For-Profit, Nonselective NP Schools are Hurting Our Reputation and Credibility

    nitenurse replied to DNPgrad2022's topic in Nurse Practitioners, NP

    The average number of clinical hours for CRNAs are a bit lower (9300 sounds closer to anesthesiologist), however, they do depend on the school:...

  12. For-Profit, Nonselective NP Schools are Hurting Our Reputation and Credibility

    nitenurse replied to DNPgrad2022's topic in Nurse Practitioners, NP

    Actually its not that number comes from the states' respective boards of nursing: you can more than the minimum but that would have no bearing on

  13. For-Profit, Nonselective NP Schools are Hurting Our Reputation and Credibility

    nitenurse replied to DNPgrad2022's topic in Nurse Practitioners, NP

    I'd say so. A lot of folks are comparing MD training to NP training and those two are apples and oranges. NP only has one population focus whereas MD is the spectrum. An MD will spend 160 hours on a...

  14. For-Profit, Nonselective NP Schools are Hurting Our Reputation and Credibility

    nitenurse replied to DNPgrad2022's topic in Nurse Practitioners, NP

    A lot of folks are saying that but not saying what better looks

  15. For-Profit, Nonselective NP Schools are Hurting Our Reputation and Credibility

    nitenurse replied to DNPgrad2022's topic in Nurse Practitioners, NP

    Yep, when you submit your paperwork to the board of nursing, your program and treatment population has to be in alignment. You can't do 500 hours in pediatrics and tell them you want to do adult...

  16. For-Profit, Nonselective NP Schools are Hurting Our Reputation and Credibility

    nitenurse replied to DNPgrad2022's topic in Nurse Practitioners, NP

    That position would make sense if all bikes were the same with differentiation for age or gender. Tricycle manufacturers make their product for a specific population. The folks that make bikes for...

  17. For-Profit, Nonselective NP Schools are Hurting Our Reputation and Credibility

    nitenurse replied to DNPgrad2022's topic in Nurse Practitioners, NP

    Remember Heather O'Rourke -the child from the Poltergeist? She went to the doctor with complaints of abdominal pain. The MD brushed it off and stated it was a stomach bug from well water. She was dead...

  18. For-Profit, Nonselective NP Schools are Hurting Our Reputation and Credibility

    nitenurse replied to DNPgrad2022's topic in Nurse Practitioners, NP

    They don't need to. They do not diagnose and treat the same elements. I agree people are missing the forest through the trees; NPs are mid-level practitioners that are not designed or trained to...

  19. For-Profit, Nonselective NP Schools are Hurting Our Reputation and Credibility

    nitenurse replied to DNPgrad2022's topic in Nurse Practitioners, NP

    hmmm maybe but I don't think that's a fair comparison. The MD space has a lot more to worry about and their brains are full of a lot more information than the NP. So, it takes them a bit longer to get...

  20. For-Profit, Nonselective NP Schools are Hurting Our Reputation and Credibility

    nitenurse replied to DNPgrad2022's topic in Nurse Practitioners, NP

    I agree but not from a pure profit perspective; enforcement and litigation are usually are the biggest drivers. In the NP space, being board certified is starting to get some legs, so now FNP-BC or...

  21. For-Profit, Nonselective NP Schools are Hurting Our Reputation and Credibility

    nitenurse replied to DNPgrad2022's topic in Nurse Practitioners, NP

    More independence, yes -arizona was the most recent state to allow independent NP practice without an MD babysitter and I have not seen any efforts to relax standards in schools -nursing or otherwise....

  22. For-Profit, Nonselective NP Schools are Hurting Our Reputation and Credibility

    nitenurse replied to DNPgrad2022's topic in Nurse Practitioners, NP

    I don't believe understand a number of your statements on this one: "No one has proposed what you keep representing as basic knowledge of Chemistry as applies to humans." -what does this mean? this...

  23. For-Profit, Nonselective NP Schools are Hurting Our Reputation and Credibility

    nitenurse replied to DNPgrad2022's topic in Nurse Practitioners, NP

    hmmmm I believe that was the exact design. NP programs are for patients that do not require a high level care. Patients that require a few stiches from cutting themselves when slicing tomatoes or they...

  24. For-Profit, Nonselective NP Schools are Hurting Our Reputation and Credibility

    nitenurse replied to DNPgrad2022's topic in Nurse Practitioners, NP

    Exactly. You can't be an expert in everything. The sciences won't get you there. If you worked in a lab or went into research, then they would be useful. But knowing the specific heat capacity of...

  25. For-Profit, Nonselective NP Schools are Hurting Our Reputation and Credibility

    nitenurse replied to DNPgrad2022's topic in Nurse Practitioners, NP

    Kinda. I have a PhD and its a research degree. You have laser-like focus on a very specific subject (but it has to be broad enough to find information on it) and all of your attention is dedicated to...