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Awesome. I wish I can be like you guys! Thanks for the support!

Yes I do, because the list is long if I decided to type out all the things I have seen in a math lecture hall. One W was because I had two deaths in the family at the same time ( again I did not want to bring it on this board). One other W was because faced cancer and was under testing for two months and I couldn't keep up with the tests and assignments emotionally and didn't wish to really mention that on this board because of how personal it is to me. I'm still going through certain things on an emotional level. One other W was because of a similar situation with a professor who cussed down at another student. There you go. When I saw incompetence from a professor, I dropped the class before it impacted my transcripts, but it still holds me back and this is where most of my discouragement comes from. Because I keep getting held back. To those who will easily tell another person that they won't be able to handle a nursing program, be careful because there is no indication of what a person can or cannot handle outside of these typed words. These conversations have been uplifting and have been really supportive. I'm going to end this conversation here.

There is a huge difference between not liking a professor, and being verbally abused by one. I guess the census here is that its entirely ok for a student to be made fun of out-loud in front of the class due to their disabilities and just lay low and take a grade.....seriously? Again..difference between unfair professors ( which I have had) and professors that are blatantly too comfortable to treat their students like garbage.

I'm ok with the material itself. However, I feel that most students don't take ratemyprofessor seriously and being in a class with a professor that deragatory and abussive, while we sit there and take it for the grade really just makes professors like that feel as though they can get away with that type of behavoir in the future, which is not ok. Hopefully someone reported him. But do you think that "sticking it out for the A" only ensured that he could do that or something worse to another class? And get away with it?

It's very concerning that this is happening to you. But don't let the circumstance define who you want to be and there is more than just one path to achieve a goal. OMG just listen to me. I am better at giving advice than abiding by it. I struggled with Anatomy too and it was my first year/ first semester in college. Idk how I managed, but pulled out a B+ and was curved up to an A- during a time when I had two immediate deaths in the family. I remember I had this professor, who was one of the toughest I ever had and I hated the man. He used to call on me all the time and believe it or not, we'd get into some very critical and opinionated discussions right in front of the class, and he'd push me intellectually and then challenge my opinions. The reason why is he was actually intrigued by my philosophical views on certain things and I wasn't afraid to really stand up for my opinion, just as long as it was constructive/forth bringing/and respectful. He knew I could hold up an argument (the class was critical thinking advanced btw). He would also harshly criticize my papers. There were nights that I would go home and just sob...but I was so pissed, I wanted to show him what I was made of. So I buckled up and basically flipped him an intellectual bird lol and wanted to show him what I was made of. In this class, we had a 15-page research paper to do within a matter of a few weeks. In one week I probably had about 8 hours of sleep working on perfecting this paper and this was alongside four other classes and full-time work. When the class was finally over, he gave his final goodbye lecture and called each and every one of us up to get out grades and shake hands. Mind you, he never told any of us what are grades were during the semester. So you can be imaging how much anxiety I felt. He purposely placed me last to call up. I was already in tears thinking that I didn't do so well. He asked me if I wanted to know what my grade was. Of course, I said yes and was honest with him and told him i felt like i didn't do that well. And the next thing he said is " you need to believe in yourself more, and I saw that you had potential and you were one of my most intellectual students that I had a privilege teaching. I wanted to push you and see what you had and I am impressed" and that's when he showed me a paper with my name being the only one highlighted with a score of 299 out of 300. After I realized what he did, I appreciated him for it and he quickly became one of my favorites professors. I guess what I am trying to say, is that do not let yourself become a victim, and again I should really emphasize taking up my own advice lol. That there are ways to accomplish your goals. You just have to put your mind to it and not let yourself become defeated by other people's opinions of you. I hope this helped you at least a little bit.

I completely agree and thank you for the kind words here. It means a lot. I am just trying to make a decision in what I want to do, as far as transferring. I have met some amazing professors. It's the math department that really needs a haul and a clean slate in getting professors in this department that have a passion to teach. Those that do, leave very quickly the following semester to another college. I am just trying to figure out whether or not I want to just outsource my math courses at another college and stay here for the duration of my prerequisites or transfer completely over. I may just outsource and test drive the classes before making the jump to fully transfer. I'll be going to the other college on Friday to see what needs to be done so that I can get registered quickly for either spring or for the summer while finishing off a couple of my other classes at my home college. How were you able to manage that type of schedule? I know we just do it, much like anything else, I am just impressed with other students that can hop from one college to the next to get everything done. It's something that I have always wanted to do, but I have been so limited on time, with kids and work and all. You are my educational goals.

I guess you didn't read anything I wrote. So you would be perfectly fine if one of your professors made fun of someone who had disabilities out loud? It's one thing to agree and disagree like civil human beings, and its another to make fun of a student with disabilities. Or is a half-hour late on the first day and wants to leave an hour and some early. I drop because I have the integrity to not be an audience to certain behaviors that I have seen. Secondly, I am an A student with 1 B ( college algebra math btw) and 1 C and have been in college for 2 1/2 years, and on the honorary system, so to say that I "can't handle it" was quite ignorant and full of conclusions, considering the rough lifestyle I had. I won't divulge though. But I should have been a statistic. What I am having an issue with, is the lack of competency that these math professors display particularly at this school. I am discouraged by the fact that I realized I should have transferred out a long time ago.

I have been desperately trying to finish my prerequisites and I started this path when I was 37. I am about to be 40 this coming up a month from now and whereas as most people would celebrate their day, I, on the other hand, feel somber and just disappointed in my self. I have been stuck in the same math course for almost a year, and every semester I end up dropping because the professor wasn't exactly on top of their Q and A's. I usually end up dropping the classes because of circumstances that are intolerable to the success of the student. For example, I had a professor, call out a special needs student because they were frustrated and crying, calling this student a "cry baby" and decided to laugh thinking it was hilarious, despite the dismay of the rest of us felt and expressed. This is just one instance. And I have reported her. But this is one of many " professional instructors" that I have dealt with and I have come to realize that Chaffey college, doesn't exactly have the greatest math department. I have a math professor at the moment, who didn't realize the school's course numbers and sections changed.....a year and a half ago...and that's just the tip of the ice burg. I'm deicing to drop that class as well, because he doesn't explain anything that he is doing, just writing equations on the board without saying much of anything to their students. They were late on the first day which left most of us wondering if we were in the right class ( 30 minutes late btw) and left in a hurry an hour and a half before the class ended. It left everyone confused and stunned with questions that the professor apparently didn't want to deal with. Something else was an apparent priority. I stay up most nights now until 3 in the morning with only four hours of sleep to get me onto my next day. I am trying. I get that its the student's responsibility to understand the material, but I feel like it is also the responsibility of these professors/ instructors to lecture and teach appropriately. I did have one wonderful instructor, who was amazing, and they transferred out of Chaffey to the riverside district. Most of the Math instructors at this school are tenures, and VERY comfortable with their position, refusing to retire which would allow fresh instruction to be implemented. And the only ones that are suffering, is us. I feel so defeated and tired, very discouraged. Most of all I feel angry. Most professors at Chaffey are amazing, but their courses are not imperative to the degree I am pursuing and I am fluffing my schedule with classes I don't necessarily need right now to keep my financial aid and grants because of this Math class that is occupied by professors and instructors that need to go and be rotated. I have tried so hard to get through the last math subject in order to finish the rest of my reqs, but I realized that I cant if I stay at Chaffey. I feel discouraged. It's going to take me yet another year! Before I am done with my prerequisites because of these math classes. I decided to transfer. I need to. By the time i have my LVN license, I will be a whopping 42 years of age... I was supposed to already be in the program and not dealing with this crud. I guess I need encouragement or something. I feel like I keep getting hit with roadblocks and I am over it. I have 4 W'S now... all in this math course. I just couldn't stand by and take the courses when certain things were happening that violated a student's rights to learn. Was I wrong for dropping out though? Even though I reported these professors? Thank you so much for reading this. At least it's teaching me how to manage my stress more efficiently.

I'm in the west coast area too, and that's why it's so hard to get into the RN programs. The college where I am at is prestigious for its RN program. The influx of pre-RN nursing is so compacted right now, that admissions are basically begging their students to consider LVN. Which is fine with me! Pre-nurses at my college are bitten with the RN bug. Also, the good thing is that I have the bog and pell grants which will allow me to get my degree without really costing me an arm and leg. I just don't have another 3 years to get into the RN program. OP have you considered financial aid and grants in your area? This might help you with costs. What matters is in the end, we will be nurses and it shouldn't matter what path we took to get to it. Not all paths will fit everyone's circumstances. I really wish you the best and please update us.

Hi! So I am almost in the same position you are in. I have been in the prerequisite mode for almost three years and every year it feels like the system changes for anyone trying to get into the ADN program. I actually have a 3.7 though, but still not good enough for the ADN program standards. And because my college has gone to the point system and added even more prerequisites, I am now looking at another year before even getting in. It's frustrating that I could have had an actual degree by now if I had gone into something else lol. But my heart has always been in the medical field. The criteria is getting really fierce for ADN entry and this is what I mean. At least in my area. And the points are generally : 1: Bilingual ( 5 points) ; which I dont have? 2: Military Vet ( 5 points); Again I don't have: ? 3: Licensing in another part of the medical field: 10 points; I don't have ? 4: GPA 4.0 ( 30 points) 3.5-3.0 (25 points) 5: Medical volunteer work(10 points) ( a year experience): I actually do have this 6: Must not repeat any science core classes ( I already repeated one) 7: Every W counts against your GPA ( I have four!) luckily the schools I looked into, don't count the normal prerequisite retries, just the science. So unless I am a bilingual, ex-military genius with a 4.0 that has never repeated a science course and have current medical field experience, there's no way to compete against the competition I have seen. Plus I am looking at another 3 years of school until I am completely done. One more for the added prerequisites and two for the actual program. Boo. At the end of all this, I should have just said screw it and been a DR. lol. I have been looking into other alternatives that can help me with faster, without paying an arm and leg for a private college, and I decided to go into the LVN program. From there I can bridge while already working in the medical industry. My poor husband has been brunting all the bills since I started school, and I cant do this to him for another 3 years without contributing. It's not fair to him either. The LVN program does have it's own stipulations, but for me, the pros are outweighing the cons at this point and there isn't a competition in the LVN program as there is for the RN programs and its a shorted program. Around 12-18 months. I was also told that some VN-RN bridge programs will just consider your LVN program GPA and how well you did to get in. I know this route isn't for everyone, but it's at least something for you to consider? Especially if you love nursing so much, it's at least a stepping stone.

Hi guys! So I have been in school for almost three years trying to get my prerequisites finished for the R.N program. My Gpa is 3.7 across the boards as well as being inducted into an honorary society. I really only have three more classes to go before I am completely finished with my ADN prerequisites with all of my transfer credits finished. However, I am getting really cold feet about the RN program, seeing how competitive it really is. I live in Southern Cali and I dont even have any medical experience with the exception of being a volunteer in hospice, helping terminally ill patients cope with the transition they are facing. It's really tough to do this, but I absolutely love being in and around the medical field and helping the best way I can. It's been so tough with so many life-changing situations trying to affect my schooling. I even faced a cancer scare one semester and was going through biopsy. I am also 40. I actually broke down in tears tonight with stress ( because I am so competitive) because I realized on the points system, most ADN programs support and really favor some sort of certification or work experience. I also have four W's on my transcripts which two were dumb and when I didnt know that a W counted against you, and 1 C in math and 2 B's while the rest are A's. I feel like that will hold me back from getting accepted into an ADN program. I decided to pull the reigns back a little on my goals and go for my VN first, to help gain that experience and preparedness for the ADN program. And it's a shorter program with immediate openings since everyone is trying to go for ADN, which will allow me to get into a medical workforce much faster for the experience. Being in the medical field has been a dream of mine since I was 12 years of age. My plan is to Bridge at Citrus, Norco or Riverside. And maybe Chaffey since thats where I am currently in school.. I guess my question is, is for those who have done the LVN program and bridged over to RN, how was the transition? And are the chances of getting into the RN program more favorable for a VN than someone who didn't? Any advice you can offer me before getting into the VN program? Or advice about bridging over to the RN program? And do you think being a VN made the ADN program more tolerable and not as difficult? I just feel better about going through the ladder route tbh but wanted some insight.

See that's where my confusion is too. I'm wondering if its only the core science classes they are referring to that can be only retaken once. But looking at my old progress criterea it doesnt show chem as a core requisite. I couldnt find an updated version and trying to give you as much info as I possibly can so you can help. By the looks of it, I belive you're right, but I'd appreciate your advice to make sure.

Even if the W is an attempt in Chem it doesnt count as a retry? If what you say is true, you eased a lot of stress from me. I was in complete tears and worked so hard to get where I am now. I wish I would have known what the point system required, then I would have been more prepared, however, two immediate family members dying in one-semester wasn't planned. So I should still be good to go, as long as I am careful. Thank you so much for taking the time to regard my concerns. This just feels horrible that I was switched to points in the last semesters of my undergrads.

So basically I am doomed... What about the W in my recent chemistry class? Now I am in complete tears

Hi, so I have been coming here throughout my entire college journey, but first-time registering and posting here officially. I have been in college to finish my prerequisites for the last 2 1/2 years and during most of this time, my college was under a lottery-based selection, but always heard rumors that it was going to change to a point system. So while other students slacked off and thought they could skid by with a 2.5 GPA I didn't want to take that chance and kept my GPA at a strong 3.6 with as well as being part of Kappa Phi Honorary society and did volunteer work in hospice between semesters ( when I could). I also have all my transfer credits finished with the exception of Stats. This fall my college transferred the criteria from a lottery system to a point system, which sucks because I was literally only 3 classes away from finishing and entering the program. And now I have an additional 6 classes if I wish to gain those points to get in :(. Which is fine. However, before this system was switched over, I had three W's on my transcripts, all in math because it's been 20 years since I've touched it and another w recently in Chem, due to the professor just not being organized at all. When I say unorganized, she'd tell us we could do certain things or not do certain things in the midst of our tests and I didn't want to jeopardize my GPA. So that's 4 altogether. I have also failed anatomy due to having two deaths in the family ( that was tough) but came back and retook that class and received a B. Now I am looking at the policies of my college's entrance policy to the ADN program, and I am panicked. In the catalog, it states : ( attached picture as well) Required Pre-requisite courses minimum GPA combined must be at least 2.8 May repeat only ONE science course pre-requisites for science Now is this me being able to only repeat one class out of all the science classes? Or does this mean one repeat per science class? I am just not understanding this clearly, and nowhere in the catalog is this in any detail on what it implies. I worked so hard to get to this point, I'd really hate for something that wasn't penalized in the past to now count against me just because it changed. I appreciate all the advice given.