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You're from England aren't you? ?. Only place I know that says "bum". But YES, I have "holistic" fire extinguishers. They have the same chemicals as other fire extinguishers but have been diluted down to where the only thing thats left is water. ?

I don't use a cell phone. They track you and it never worked in my bunker anyways. You'd be surprised by how much interference can come from a massive pile of canned goods. But when all you shlubs are starving during nuclear Winter and zombie attacks...

Derek Zoolander would say "and I'm not your braaa." BLUE STEEL!! KARATE CHOP!

That's DEFINITELY what I'm afraid of!

Weeeeell ...the OP doesn't own the conversation. Let's keep a little perspective. I've always looked at OPs as conversation starters. What people do with it is kind of... Up to them? I've seen this thread go into politics, personal beliefs, ethics an...

I've worked rehab as well. And you are right, it is an infection issue depending on how bad it was and how dependant the pt is (I'll have to take your word for it). Different people have different preferences and tolerances. In your case, if I really...

Got a link? I gave my source and they said it lingers in the air. That suggests aerosols. Got a counter?

Can you send me a link?

Only against droplet. Not aerosols. This is incredibly obvious. You've worn a surgical mask. You'll notice it's not sealed. Aerosols take the path of least resistance. That would be the sides, out and in. To say they are protective would suggest covi...

And there is plenty of that. But my question was who is to blame for the mistrust of the medical community. If the medical community appears in lock step with the government who is clearly politicising the pandemic, instituting lock downs, destroying...

Effectiveness after one dose of vaccine (BNT162b2 or ChAdOx1 nCoV-19) was notably lower among persons with the delta variant (30.7%; 95% confidence interval [CI], 25.2 to 35.7) than among those with the alpha variant (48.7%; 95% CI, 45.5 to 51.7); th...

In the history of vaccines, please show us an example of this new mrna tech being used on a large human population.

Your missing the point. Again and again. You are delving into the concepts of what might behind flawed reasoning. Of course people have flawed reasoning. The question was "what is a valid reason to refuse?" The pt. Can refuse. For any. Reason they ch...

It seems you don't understand informed consent.

Not when it comes to consent. The pts reasons are their own. Your opinion that their concerns are not valid is irrelevant TO CONSENT. In any case EVERYONE who doesn't like these vaccines is considered stupid by your side. By suggesting this your are ...

Correct. That's The point. It doesn't NEED to be validatED by anything whatsoever. It is valid regardless.

Correct. I don't need to AGREE with their reason (and I wouldn't). But, their reason is VALID as a matter of law and ethics. If they end up with bells palsy, they have only themselves to blame, unless they refuse and end up with the same thing or wor...

Incorrect. They are not conflated. They are one in the same in this case. It's valid because it must, by law and ethics be respected. You have no say in what is reasonable to someone. Reasonable (one definition of valid) to a study? Sure. But not whe...

Just heard a guy report that a few days after his kid got the vaccine, he died. You may not believe him, but you weren't there. Now, whether or not the vaccine actually caused the death (the diagnosis was "enlarged heart" which is unlikely to show no...

I'm not going to argue against the effectiveness of vaccines. The data is still coming in. I believe they do illicit an immune response. If that were the only question, there's the answer. But that's not the only question. People want to know there a...

The argument is about "what does valid mean." Heres a scenario. Let's lock everyone into a cell separated by Plexi glass until coof goes away. That would work would it not? We can come up with all kinds of ideas. But that's not the point I'm arguing....

I will try again. A valid reason is one that makes sense. I hope we can agree. Or "reasonable" if you like. In terms of scientific studies and data, singing can make sense, until new information congress in, then it might not make sense. In the case ...

Now THAT is reaching. A large part of her work was introducing basic hygiene. Non invasive measures that hadn't been recognized by physicians. That is irrelevant to the concept of informed consent. Your basic premise is only valid if vaccination stop...

Nice pivot. That's not the issue. The issue is "what is a valid reason to refuse vaccination." Ties into mandates and arguments of legality etc.

You seem incapable of understanding the concept of "frames of reference."