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  1. Nurse Charged With Homicide

    mtnNurse. replied to Nurse Beth's topic in General Nursing

    That is very true and I saw plenty of it where I worked. I suspect she was not experienced enough to be in that role (two years was likely not enough) and that she was striving to be a "good worker"...

  2. Nurses Call the Governor of Tennessee

    mtnNurse. replied to Nurse Beth's topic in General Nursing

    Wuzzie, we all see how badly you want to see this nurse be charged guilty as a criminal. Would you be willing to elaborate on what would be enough for you to feel justice was served? How many years in...

  3. Nurses Call the Governor of Tennessee

    mtnNurse. replied to Nurse Beth's topic in General Nursing

    Here we go again, and in a new thread no less. Can we please just agree that by "mistake" people using that word are saying that she did not kill on purpose?? And let's stick to the other thread to go...

  4. Anyone else regret becoming a nurse?

    mtnNurse. replied to Florida Sun RN's topic in General Nursing

    Nothing selfish about people saying "I wouldn't recommend nursing to anyone because..." or "Don't go into nursing unless you are ready for...". Nursing schools would have way more integrity if they...

  5. Nurse Charged With Homicide

    mtnNurse. replied to Nurse Beth's topic in General Nursing

    Yes, of course intent would've made it murder, which no one suspected and she was not charged with. But lack of intent does not automatically make it a lesser criminal charge, as I explained what I...

  6. Nurse Charged With Homicide

    mtnNurse. replied to Nurse Beth's topic in General Nursing

    Also, Wuzzie, you've had the good question of "where do we draw the line". What I described above is where I think the line should be drawn. If she were consciously aware in the moments of...

  7. Nurse Charged With Homicide

    mtnNurse. replied to Nurse Beth's topic in General Nursing

    Again, although the omission of completing the 5 rights is what everyone focuses on it is not what killed this patient. It was the lack of standard monitoring after giving an IV push medication. That...

  8. Nurse Charged With Homicide

    mtnNurse. replied to Nurse Beth's topic in General Nursing

    You cannot conclude that this awful day in this nurse's life represents how she always practiced nursing. She may have been the most prudent nurse in the world up until that day for all we know. Two...

  9. Nurse Charged With Homicide

    mtnNurse. replied to Nurse Beth's topic in General Nursing

    But the resource nurse was for several areas not just that unit, so it seems to me that clearly the unit was understaffed. And if the Neuro-ICU nurse had to double-up on patients so someone could take...

  10. Nurse Charged With Homicide

    mtnNurse. replied to Nurse Beth's topic in General Nursing

    I agree it is not unreasonable to say that. But I also think it's not unreasonable to give the nurse the benefit of doubt; maybe she did not stop even for a second to consider the fact that her...

  11. Nurse Gives Lethal Dose of Vecuronium Instead of Versed

    mtnNurse. replied to Nurse Beth's topic in General Nursing

    Yes, this is nursing school training. Agreed, and nurses should never forget those rights. Maybe that training shouldn't stop with school and it'd be helpful if at every shift change during huddle,...

  12. Nurse Charged With Homicide

    mtnNurse. replied to Nurse Beth's topic in General Nursing

    Molemedic, critical care nurses have given good reasons for the essential override function multiple times so I hope you read them. Yes, we all think she should not have bypassed the patient rights of...

  13. Nurse Charged With Homicide

    mtnNurse. replied to Nurse Beth's topic in General Nursing

    Homebound, regarding what you said about my posts, I thought part of the discussion could be about whether her behavior fits the definition of "reckless homicide" because OP's question is whether she...

  14. Nurse Charged With Homicide

    mtnNurse. replied to Nurse Beth's topic in General Nursing

    I think it depends on the error and what led to the error whether there should be legal consequences. I explained why the charge of "reckless homicide" does not fit in her case, and at worst you could...

  15. Nurse Charged With Homicide

    mtnNurse. replied to Nurse Beth's topic in General Nursing

    Wuzzie said: Since the processes that were already in place were so blatantly ignored what makes you think new ones are going to make any difference? Can you not imagine the possibility that this...

  16. Nurse Charged With Homicide

    mtnNurse. replied to Nurse Beth's topic in General Nursing

    Regarding the drunk pilot analogy, that is a whole different conversation. If the nurse showed up to work on drugs or set out to kill that morning, that is a whole different conversation that would...

  17. Nurse Charged With Homicide

    mtnNurse. replied to Nurse Beth's topic in General Nursing

    AMEN to that! That's why I quit my job in the hospital, because it was not a safe environment for patients (or for my license). I should be writing to my representatives about my strong feelings about...

  18. Nurse Charged With Homicide

    mtnNurse. replied to Nurse Beth's topic in General Nursing

    This makes me think of someone's analogy with a speeding driver accidentally killing someone, and how the driver should be charged with reckless homicide, just as they think this nurse should be...

  19. Nurse Charged With Homicide

    mtnNurse. replied to Nurse Beth's topic in General Nursing

    Honestly, I would want some of you perfect nurses to be my nurse if god forbid I go to the hospital -- the nurses who would never be worked so hard that they'd have a harmful lapse of judgement in...

  20. Nurse Charged With Homicide

    mtnNurse. replied to Nurse Beth's topic in General Nursing

    Of course that is our responsibility! Do you think she had a serious lapse of judgement on purpose? My point is it's not "reckless homicide" -- she wasn't thinking that she was playing...

  21. Nurse Charged With Homicide

    mtnNurse. replied to Nurse Beth's topic in General Nursing

    To make a choice you have to be thinking. If she had been thinking about what she were doing, the fatal mistake would not have been made. (mistake meaning 'error' or 'accident' since we assume she...

  22. Nurse Charged With Homicide

    mtnNurse. replied to Nurse Beth's topic in General Nursing

    How can you believe that she knew? If she knew, don't you think it's most likely she did not want to risk killing a patient that day? So if she was being aware of the dangers, don't you think she...

  23. Nurse Charged With Homicide

    mtnNurse. replied to Nurse Beth's topic in General Nursing

    But what if she didn't know (though she 'should know') that she needed to monitor the patient after giving that med? There's a difference between poor judgement and recklessness -- recklessness means...

  24. Nurse Charged With Homicide

    mtnNurse. replied to Nurse Beth's topic in General Nursing

    I guess one big difference in my thinking is that I see this as one big mistake she made -- administering a wrong medicine. I just picture her in a mindless rush to grab the med, administer, and run...

  25. Nurse Charged With Homicide

    mtnNurse. replied to Nurse Beth's topic in General Nursing

    JadedCPN, since you want to reply without reading all previous replies first, I'll repost this for you because I'm trying to get you to understand why what she did is not "reckless homicide" which she...