I'm not giving up. I started at a community college in Minnesota that had a great reputation in the community. Many medical groups will take a grad from this school over some of the expensive private. When my mom was in the hospitals I saw a group of these students come through with their instructor. I was really impressed by his knowledge base, and how respectful he talked to the students. He had a positive energy about him. It is so competitive to get into a good program that doesn't cost 50,000.00. When I applied in the Twin Cities my GPA was 3.6, and I was in the 80th percentile for the TEAS. I was number sixty-six out of two hundred an sixty, and there were only forty spots. So I moved to Wisc, applied, and got in. No waiting list, no TEAS. I felt it was poorly organized and the syllabus was a mess. The instructors didn't even realize the text books were a new edition. The first two weeks every student brought every book everyday to class because we were not told hat half the books we wouldn't tart using until the following semester, The was so small and most of the floor was covered by huge bags/ suitcases. The first week I caught several errors they were teaching. One instructor used an example f her nursing note, that she wrote as students ( I hope) None of the doctors I have ever worked would read 2 pages of information that is not important I was never one to be a know it all, and answer every question first. I didn't point out instructor errors. the class, as to embarrass the instructors, but even when I questioned it after class, or in an e-mail it was met with defense. As far as I can remember the LPN instructors 25 yrs ago were all nice. I understand the critical thinking part of nursing that is so important. Nurses need to consider so many different factor. How much of what a RN/BSN does a nurse learn in school verses on the job? I was very disappointed to see one of the BSN nurses on this site, in a forum tell a second year nursing student from Germany that his mentor wasn't there to teach him. She suggested he refer to the policy and procedure manual. A good nurse can only learn some things from other nurses. Nothing in medicine is black and white. I wonder if the instructors at some of these more affluent colleges have this attitude. I some how doubt it. Could imagine if the govornor daughter went to a school where the instructors wielded their power like I am fearful many do. I want to go to a school where I am treated with respect, I don't expect to be respected, and this is the difference. A quick example is when I went to an orientation for a nsg program at a pilot college. The ones where your two year degree wont transfer to a four year degree. During the orientation the nursing Instructors, and even the director of nursing stood in front of 150 perspective students, and spoke in a reprimanding tone, never smiled, and told us this is how it is, we wont work with you, you need to make it work , or you'll be done. I left and and never went back. Thank you for not yelling at me for having a higher expectation. I wonder how some of these teachers would act if they had a television camera on them. I'm getting up there, so this next university is my last chance my chips are all in! I really think it has become an issue because many young girls will do anything to make it through, but I' m not. I know this is a lot of complaining, and If there was even one redeeming quality of that program I would mention it, bu I honestly can't think of one. I will say this; the microbiology instructor was really good. She knew her stuff. I learned a lot from her.