PhD Nursing Education

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Do we really have a need for PhD Nursing Education majors? some of my work mates are considering this but wondering if it will lead to employment.

Look at job postings at public universities. All of the job postings I've seen require a doctorate, except for part time clinical-only instructors.

PhD not necessary to teach at community colleges and health care organizations.

Very low pay, if you can even get a job

2 hours ago, Oldmahubbard said:

Very low pay, if you can even get a job

My friend and I worry about this. We are being pushed to do a PhD in nursing education because it will supposedly make us more employable. But we feel like this may not be the case. It feels like most places already have nursing professors.

You should go for PhD in any field if you are really passionate about that particular field and have a strong interest in conducting research on it. Otherwise, it would be just a waste of time and energy. You can still teach in community colleges and universities with MSN but if you decide to get a tenured-track position, PhD would be wise.

I agree with toriphile23. Don’t get the phd for job security or the prospect of a better job. There are dime a dozen doctorally prepared educators (especially DNPs) and not all them have secure jobs. Most of the ones I work with got the Phd and do not want to do research. So they are not likely to get tenure. Their job security is just as equal as mine and I am masters prepared. Read the job descriptions – most educational institutions do not differentiate from DNP and Phd. Phd is not worth the time and money and DNPs are plenty. Do it ONLY if you are passionate about research and tenure (which by the way is extremely hard to get these days- many Phd nurses applying for 1-2 tenure positions).

3 minutes ago, aanurse said:

I agree with toriphile23. Don’t get the phd for job security or the prospect of a better job. There are dime a dozen doctorally prepared educators (especially DNPs) and not all them have secure jobs. Most of the ones I work with got the Phd and do not want to do research. So they are not likely to get tenure. Their job security is just as equal as mine and I am masters prepared. Read the job descriptions – most educational institutions do not differentiate from DNP and Phd. Phd is not worth the time and money and DNPs are plenty. Do it ONLY if you are passionate about research and tenure (which by the way is extremely hard to get these days- many Phd nurses applying for 1-2 tenure positions).

than you for the honest reply. I really needed this information from all of you. they always tell us to continue going for the PhD no matter what. But i suspected its to keep the revenue coming into the schools of new students.

3 minutes ago, aanurse said:
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