Published Mar 18, 2015
PediatricRNTX
127 Posts
I work in a small community hospital that admits pediatric patients onto a postpartum unit. We have pedi hospitalists and pedi nurses. Our patient loads vary from ~1-12.
How could this type of unit be safely staffed (ie: nurses, training, resources)? We've been arguing for 2 pedi nurses on staff for each shift as we'd be able to utilize each other for emergencies, skill assistance, knowledge deficits...etc. in addition, we would like charge nurses to undergo some general training on pedi as they are the one overseeing the unit. This would also include PCA pedi training.
Anyone else work on a similar adult/pedi unit? How is it staffed? Is it safe? Do you have resources?
I understand, in a perfect world, pedi would be on a separate unit with separate staff...but at this hospital that is not feasible.
NotReady4PrimeTime, RN
5 Articles; 7,358 Posts
Pediatric patients require nurses with pediatric experience because children are not small adults. And because they're CHILDREN the nurse's assignment should never exceed 4 patients. Children are at extremely high risk for entanglement which can be deadly if they're not observed at regular intervals. If your community hospital doesn't utilize tubing stabilizers, even a 1:3 or 1:2 assignment might not be safe. So that's what needs to be considered for baseline staffing. There must always be 2 nurses with pediatric training on site - even if the census is low - to allow for break coverage and aid in emergencies and events like transferring the patient to a higher level of care. In terms of assisting with procedures like IV starts, catheterization, NG placement and so on, peds training isn't necessarily required. If there are only 3 kids on the unit the charge nurse could be the back-up, but even one admission without a discharge will put you in trouble. You can't rely on parents to be the back-up, because you can't force them to be at the bedside. Patient safety has to be the primary consideration at all times. I hope you're able to get this sorted out, both for your patients' sake as well as your staff's.
I appreciate your input. I have a meeting with the director soon and I would like to offer some solutions/suggestions along with the complaints/discussion of issues. This is stemmed from a recent code blue. We LUCKILY had two pedi nurses on which was absolutely necessary. In addition, not sure that it could have been prevented, but we were working no techs or secretary. I was literally being asked to make soup for patients and answer calls while my patient was going into distress. I had no help!
Those are exactly the sorts of situations you want to prevent. If you're trying to juggle the responsibilities of two other people in addition to providing patient care, there are going to be periods of time when no one is actually minding the store. Children don't look poopy until just before they crump, and they aren't able to communicate they feel poopy until they crump, so they need regular and frequent visual checks and if you can't visually check them frequently they need some sort of monitoring... which just increases their entanglement risk. Another reason for more close observation is the very high risk of extravasation in children. It's virtually impossible to adequately secure an IV on a small child. I've seen enough really nasty IV burns on kids to last me a lifetime. And let's face it, if a child is in the hospital in the first place, it's most likely that s/he has an IV. People are admitted to hospital for nursing care. Period.
Years ago (before I became a nurse) my son was a patient on an adult isolation unit. He had chicken pox while on chemotherapy so needed acyclovir treatment. He was almost 4 years old and a very compliant child. I wasn't able to saty in hospital with him because his dad was out of town and his sisters were too little to be left alone, so there were times he didn't have me there in the room. One morning I arrived at his room to find him loose in the room and his IV tubing was completely wrapped around his IV pole. The IV itself was obviously out. I went to the nurses' station and told the nurse sitting there that his IV was out. She nodded and kept right on doing what she was doing. I pointed out that he was a pre-schooler and had been left uncontained in his room. She nodded but didn't move. So I said, "Well, I'll just go D/C his IV myself." THAT got her out of her chair. Before I left that evening to go pick up the girls from my neighbours' house, I made sure there were instructions in his Kardex that if he was out of the bed he needed to be constrained with a table or some other means so he couldn't wander around inside the room without supervision. I think they were very happy to see us discharged. But this is the kind of thing that shouldn't happen to children while they're in hospital. While we're talking about extravasation, my unit was sued a couple of years ago over an extravasation injury. Imagine if the child had died, instead of needing some plastic surgery. That's a very real risk your unit is running by not having adequate staffing.
AnnieOaklyRN, BSN, RN, EMT-P
2,587 Posts
This seems like an awful idea, especially as far as infection control goes! You are putting newborns on the same floor as kids with infectious diseases. What about RSV season?!
Annie
NurseStorm, BSN, RN
153 Posts
I know this is a bit old, but thought I'd throw in my two cents in case its still relevant (also any update OP?).
My unit is a Maternal Child unit, so we have a peds wing, Labour/delivery/recovery/postpartum wing, and a special care nursery. I work all the areas except for labour. Peds is definitely my primary and favourite
None of the labour nurses do peds, and usually no peds nurses do labour just due to the complexities of both areas. There is only one peds nurse currently trained in labour I believe. We are often sharing staff though as all the peds staff do mother-baby care as well, and most do special care nursery. This can get complex and there can be quite a bit of tension between labour and peds at times as labour/maternity always feel they should be able to pull the 2nd peds staff for the day, but yet it never goes the other way around I am not sure what the solution to this is, but I know that some of the problem is the attitude of a certain few people/entitlement, so I'm hoping this gets addressed in the upcoming improvement meetings the manager is doing, lol. For your unit, if not already done- I would recommend getting the manager and charge nurse to speak at a staff meeting or something re: the importance of peds, how quickly kids go downhill, crash etc. and how it is important to support the peds nurses and not just assume they are extra staff for mother-baby.
I do agree you should have at least 2 peds capable staff on, and you should probably try to designate certain rooms as peds rooms. I'm not sure how the unit is set up, but as someone else mentioned, infection control could be an issue here Preferably if some are off in one hall make these peds rooms. Isolate any respiratory/coughing/puking kid. It would be nice if your supply room could have a peds section for ease of finding things. Also a peds filing drawer where educational sheets you would use can be stored (ie. asthma action plan sheets, tonsillectomy discharge criteria and instructions, etc). Each specialty having its own little area does help. I don't know how much space you guys have so that could be an issue. Hm, trying to think of anything else..
Definitely agree with the charge nurse needing peds training. For training for staff- PALS definitely. Having a peds specific crash cart with braslow tape and tower if you don't already have these (which hopefully you do). As far as other training, I always try to attend any conferences or workshops offered in our area relating to pediatrics, the unit could support this- I don't know what other places are like for education funding, allowing education days, etc.
Sorry this is long after you first asked, but hopefully some of it can still help :)