Ontario Second Entry Nursing Fall 2021

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Hey everyone!

I haven't seen a post for Fall 2021 yet so here it is!

My choices are:

1. UofT

2. McMaster

3. Nipissing SPP

I started my OUAC application in November and now trying to work on the supplemental packages. My CASPer Test is on January 12, 2021.

I need to take Anatomy and Physio course(s) however, I'm having a hard time figuring out what would satisfy the requirements from all three universities. My options so far are:

1. Take CBLG 101 in Winter and CBLG 111 in Spring at Ryerson. However final grade will be in June; hoping that's fine.  This satisfies all 3 unis

2. Take SCS 2159 in Winter from UofT which is enough for UofT and McMaster but not for Nipissing. I have to take an Anatomy course just for Nip.

I have a Bachelor's Degree in Early Childhood Education from back home, been working as an RECE in Toronto the last 8 years, have a Diploma in Nonprofit Management at Ryerson. My cGPA is 3.55 which I'm worried about. Lots of extra curricular activities from university and volunteering here in Toronto.  I still have to compute the GPA for the last two years.

I requested WES to send my transcripts to Nip and McMaster and asked my old uni to send to UofT.

It's been an expensive application so far; really hoping I get in! Looking forward to chatting with you all and sharing our experiences.

1 hour ago, Teddy348 said:

Hey everyone,

congratulations on everyone who gotten into Western so far!!?Was the acceptance through the portal or through email, if you don’t mind me asking 

both. Portal then emailed.

Just declined my Western waitlist spot (good luck to those on the waitlist). Will be doing Nipissing SPP. Does anyone know if there is a facebook group for it yet?

5 hours ago, neuropsych15 said:

Oh sorry I was talking about Queens with regards to uploading my final transcript! As for Mac, I'm an internal transfer so I didn't need to upload my final transcript from this past semester since they already have it. Sorry I can't help more! 

Hi! I'm an internal transfer as well (applied through OUAC not the returning student form)  but for some reason my application shows as incomplete because it says I need to upload my final transcript! I've tried emailing them as well but no luck! Did you have a similar issue at any point? 

11 minutes ago, hopefulnurse6 said:

Just declined my Western waitlist spot (good luck to those on the waitlist). Will be doing Nipissing SPP. Does anyone know if there is a facebook group for it yet?

Yeah there is!! Just look up Nipissing SPP-class of 2023. The link is also posted on the SPP forum on here if you just search for Nipissing SPP 2021 applicants 

14 minutes ago, hopefulnurse6 said:

Just declined my Western waitlist spot (good luck to those on the waitlist). Will be doing Nipissing SPP. Does anyone know if there is a facebook group for it yet?

Just curious as to why you would choose Nipissing over Western (if got off waitlist)? They are both amazing schools and I'm very conflicted as to which school to go between the two.

1 hour ago, ericthesheep said:

Just got accepted into Trent!

Congrats!! Do you mind me asking what your GPA for the 10 courses was?

Of course! My last 10 course GPA was 3.66/4.0

Hi everyone! I have received offers from Western and McMaster and am wondering if anyone has any insights about each program? Some pros and cons? I would appreciate it very much thank you!! 

42 minutes ago, birdlover1 said:

Just curious as to why you would choose Nipissing over Western (if got off waitlist)? They are both amazing schools and I'm very conflicted as to which school to go between the two.

Well my reasoning is as follows:

1. I already live in Toronto, nothing beats not having to leave your family.

2. 1:1 preceptorships

3. The SPP NCLEX pass rates are very high

4. SPP has a UHN and Sickkids contract with a substantial amount of clinical hours. (I spoke to a student there at the moment, and the student is doing 24 hours of clinical a week during COVID). Additionally, by doing the clinicals in downtown Toronto, getting a job in Toronto itself should be easier later on.

5. Their style of learning is independent and not as overwhelming, from what I have been told, they do not focus on theory as much as most schools. For example, most nurses will tell you that most of their learning happened when they first got hired after they graduated. With the SPP this should not be the case given the independent learning style and high amount of clinical hours.

6. I spoke to U of T, Western, Queens and Nipissing students. U of T students seemed the least happy, and Nipissing students seemed the most happy. Given that the SPP is so new, it seems that there is a great deal of support given to students there. 

7. I also explored the fact that most of the SPP courses are credit/nocredit to see if this is a problem for masters programs by emailing some nursing masters programs about it, and it seems that it is not at all an issue. 

1 hour ago, hopefulnurse6 said:

Well my reasoning is as follows:

1. I already live in Toronto, nothing beats not having to leave your family.

2. 1:1 preceptorships

3. The SPP NCLEX pass rates are very high

4. SPP has a UHN and Sickkids contract with a substantial amount of clinical hours. (I spoke to a student there at the moment, and the student is doing 24 hours of clinical a week during COVID). Additionally, by doing the clinicals in downtown Toronto, getting a job in Toronto itself should be easier later on.

5. Their style of learning is independent and not as overwhelming, from what I have been told, they do not focus on theory as much as most schools. For example, most nurses will tell you that most of their learning happened when they first got hired after they graduated. With the SPP this should not be the case given the independent learning style and high amount of clinical hours.

6. I spoke to U of T, Western, Queens and Nipissing students. U of T students seemed the least happy, and Nipissing students seemed the most happy. Given that the SPP is so new, it seems that there is a great deal of support given to students there. 

7. I also explored the fact that most of the SPP courses are credit/nocredit to see if this is a problem for masters programs by emailing some nursing masters programs about it, and it seems that it is not at all an issue. 

Hi! If you don't mind sharing, why did UofT students seem the unhappiest?

4 hours ago, Grapejuice said:

No Western does not tell you what number on the waitlist you are. They can accept you anytime now until literally the day before classes. Last year I tried asking them for at least the size of the waitlist but they couldn't say. They just go down by averages only once spots open up. They don't look at casper once you are pass their threshold.

Last year the admissions lady said if you meet the 75% minimum average, and pass their casper threshold, you will be waitlisted. 

Last year, people with around 82% averages got off the waitlist. Then, Mid-august they were accepting people in 81%. And right before classes, they said the last person to get a spot was around 80% average. It might be different this year depending on the number of applicants or funding for more seats. I had 78% for last 10.0 courses (including master courses, which they count) and didn't get in.

Hey! Sorry just for clarification, do you mean the waitlist got cleared to 82% throughout the Summer and then worked down to 80% eventually? 

1 hour ago, KS98 said:

Hi! If you don't mind sharing, why did UofT students seem the unhappiest?

Well, my only sample is from students during COVID-19, but apparently the online lectures weren't always great. Some lectures were well over 80 slides, yet the lecturer completed the video in less than 30 minutes. Other lecturers were absolutely amazing, so I don't mean to put UofT down. Overall the students I spoke to love nursing, UofT didn't take that away or anything, it's just that they were too busy to enjoy life. UofT also focuses on theory quite a bit in its courses which just a huge part of nursing practice... and then there are the nursing care plans, those are just really annoying I hear.

I also forgot to mention, the program isn't as tightly-knit as most small programs, the UofT program is around 150 people (I'm guessing).

By the way everyone, every nursing program is a great program, these are just the reasons why I chose SPP over these programs. The reasons are completely biased to my opinion, so do not think too much of my opinions ^.^, always listen to your hearts.

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