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suzanne4, RN

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It is one thing to go thru a program for the LVN license, but it is completely something else for the RN when the two year programs are not accredited by CHED in the Philippines nor are any of these programs accepted for licensure in the Philippines.

This thread was started because the poster had enrolled in a program in the Philippines that is not accredited in the US for the RN; it has nothing to do with any private LPN program. We are talking of the RN program and from the Philippines, that is where the degree would come from.

Any of these programs that tries to take a shortcut and the student gets caught in the middle of it. Any program where the clinical is not done at the same time as the theory and the hours will not be accepted for licensure in any country, especially not the US or Canada. This is specific requirement for both of these countries that is followed very closely.

akotohLVN

5 Posts

It is one thing to go thru a program for the LVN license, but it is completely something else for the RN when the two year programs are not accredited by CHED in the Philippines nor are any of these programs accepted for licensure in the Philippines.

This thread was started because the poster had enrolled in a program in the Philippines that is not accredited in the US for the RN; it has nothing to do with any private LPN program. We are talking of the RN program and from the Philippines, that is where the degree would come from.

Any of these programs that tries to take a shortcut and the student gets caught in the middle of it. Any program where the clinical is not done at the same time as the theory and the hours will not be accepted for licensure in any country, especially not the US or Canada. This is specific requirement for both of these countries that is followed very closely.

Yeah... that is why i switched to LVN because i have some doubts about their RN program... I'm not endorsing the school or anything... Im just sharing my experience... I'm also taking a risk with what Im doing... If ever I get an LVN license from them, my next step is to go to another school in the Phils to continue my RN. In that way, I do not have to worry about the school's accreditation.....

suzanne4, RN

26,410 Posts

Sorry, but again you will have problems. The majority of the programs in the Philippines do not offer a bridge program and you will be starting all over again, especially if it is one that is actually in good standings with the government there.

You would be much further ahead to just complete a bridge program here.

And you may not be aware of the fact that even if you are a US passport holder, and graduate from school over there, you are always going to be considered a foreign nurse and you will need to complete all of those additional requirements before you will be able to get licensed here.

That makes no sense to me when you can complete a bridge program in a year or so here.

The other thing that you are forgetting about is that your program was considered a technical school and not a college, so getting your hours to transfer overseas is not going to happen in most cases as well.

akotohLVN

5 Posts

Sorry, but again you will have problems. The majority of the programs in the Philippines do not offer a bridge program and you will be starting all over again, especially if it is one that is actually in good standings with the government there.

You would be much further ahead to just complete a bridge program here.

And you may not be aware of the fact that even if you are a US passport holder, and graduate from school over there, you are always going to be considered a foreign nurse and you will need to complete all of those additional requirements before you will be able to get licensed here.

That makes no sense to me when you can complete a bridge program in a year or so here.

The other thing that you are forgetting about is that your program was considered a technical school and not a college, so getting your hours to transfer overseas is not going to happen in most cases as well.

I forgot about the foreign grad requirements.... I guess you are right...It may be easier here to do the bridge here.... I don't know any school in Phils. offering bridge anyways ..... I will injuire in some community college around the area that offers bridge...I just hope there i will not be placed in the waiting list... I guess as soon as I find out that Im going to sit in the LVN NCLEX, I should start submitting my application...:typing

suzanne4, RN

26,410 Posts

Best of luck to you.

Please check out the NCLEX Forum that can be found under the student tab for help with passing that exam.

RiskTaker123

2 Posts

Suzanne, how can facilities offering clinicals for various nursing schools be sure they are not unintentionally associated with a questionable nursing school? I am not a nurse, but I work for a facility that offers clinicals in the U.S. We want to do the right thing.

suzanne4, RN

26,410 Posts

The issue is not so much as having the clinical someplace but the fact the US as well as Canada require that theory be done at the same time as the clinicals. And this is not what is happening.

Next, what is the reason that the school or whatever you are associated with is wishing to have their clinicals in the US in the first place?

It is not going to get anyone a visa to be able to work here when they are done and their diploma or transcript is going to list the school that is out of the US, not where they did their clinicals as being the school of record.

Mant times the facilities that are even listed by some of these schools know nothing about the school that is even listing their name in the first place. Being able to provide clinical training is also not the same thing as having it done thru an approved school of nursing. What about the nursing instructors for these students, where are they from? The program has to be thru an approved school of nursing here, not just a hospital that is willing to have students there.

RiskTaker123

2 Posts

To make myself clear, we are a U.S. healthcare facility that allows students to complete their clinicals in our facility by one of our RNs. I am a new employee, and new to the industry. I am doing a little research and I do not yet know what our guidelines are (I have not begun work yet). Before I look into it at our facility, I am requesting your input. Please pardon my ignorance as I learn.

You stated:

"Mant times the facilities that are even listed by some of these schools know nothing about the school that is even listing their name in the first place. Being able to provide clinical training is also not the same thing as having it done thru an approved school of nursing. What about the nursing instructors for these students, where are they from? The program has to be thru an approved school of nursing here, not just a hospital that is willing to have students there.

What is the best place to find said "approved" school of nursing? Is there a reliable and consistently updated list? Am I correct that it should only be based in the U.S.? Where SHOULD the nursing instructors be "from?"

Thank you for your time and input.

suzanne4, RN

26,410 Posts

The original poster of this thread is actually speaking of a program in the Philippines that has students complete their clinical training in the US and that is where big problems exist.

You are speaking of something entirely different and where they are still clinical instructors that are available to the student as well and the the student is going to be completing both the clinical and theory portions of their program at the same time. There is no issue at all with the type of clinical program that you are speaking of, the nurse at your facility acts as a preceptor and has to complete paperwork on each and every student that would work with them and quite detailed at that. And it is handled thru an approved school of nursing as well.

The issue with this program that it is on-line for one out of the Philippines and is not accredited there either. The Philippines is having many problems even with their traditional programs as well that are offered completely there.

Ginger's Mom, MSN, RN

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Has 41 years experience.

As a clinical instructor, I know the college has provide the health care facility with an insurance policy. Another issue, if this is not an approved program and the"students" are practicing nursing, they are really practicing nursing without a license. So a facility participating in this process could be in trouble.

twinkle12

27 Posts

A few days ago I contacted the BON and told me to contact the CGFNS/CES to determine if my education is approved for the RN licensing. After I contacted the CGFNS/CES, they told me to contact the state I am in for more information. Both agencies, the BON and CGFNS,would not really help me. I emailed the BON again, but they never responded as I did not complete the Nursing program entirely therefore, I could not be answered.

As for Omnibus, I am still waiting for my the money to be credited back to my credit card.

Additionally, this morning a fellow student emailed me about seeking legal action, but they are in Atlanta, GA. I am not sure yet if I will pursue this because Omnibus might not refund my money if I seek legal action.

suzanne4, RN

26,410 Posts

CGFNS states that any RN program needs to be accredited, at least even in that country. And this program is not recognized by CHED, so it does not meet their standards as a start. They also require that a graduate be the first level professional nurse in the country at least where they did their training, even if they are not permitted to sit for the licensing exam.

Again, this program falls short as anything less than the BSN is not recognized because of this as well.

The only ones that are getting thru at this time are in states that do not need the CES or anything to do with CGFNS. So that cuts things down considerably.

And this is why I always get on my bandwagon about programs like this. I personally would report them to the state Attorney General where you are when things are done.

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