I live in the Midwest and I'm watching the news. And my state Missouri and Kansas has a deal going. If you are unemployed. The states will send you to school for the health care field for get this free. Yeap it's true and they said if you want to be a Nurse or a PT, OT, RT, or anything in the health field they will send you to school to learn a trade. And i guess the hospitals are jumping on board with this.
That's all fine but what about the New Grads that can't get jobs now. There is really no health care jobs in Missouri or KS. The medical field in general is really getting hit hard everywhere. Nurse's and Doctors along with other people in different health care fields are filling bankruptcy because they can't find jobs. I understand trying to get people employed but how can they send people to school knowing there's no jobs and might not be jobs after they are done. Please your thoughts on this matter and thank for responding in advance
The states will send you to school for the health care field for get this free. Yeap it's true and they said if you want to be a Nurse or a PT, OT, RT, or anything in the health field they will send you to school to learn a trade.
OT and PT require a Masters degree with a doctorate preferred. I can't imagine having that much education paid for by the state and what a great opportunity for someone who can accept it. OT, PT and SLP are in high demand with openings in most hospitals and that is predicted to continue. I know many other states will pay for an EMT, CNA, LVN or even an ADN or A.S if you qualify through their unemployment benefits. And yes, in many areas the market is now flooded. I know in a city nearby just one EMS trade school was pushing out 75 EMTs every 8 weeks and about 30 - 50 Paramedics in an additional 4 months. That was just one school and there were several in the area with each doing the same. Their clinical experiences will not be that great since the hospitals can not schedule that many unsupervised students at one time from all the "trade" schools which have these programs. But, the schools are cashing in on the state funding for retraining.
The negative side of this is that many will sign up for these classes who have never had any interest in a medical profession and waste the space for someone who would truly like to enter that profession. Chances are they may flunk or drop out or even finish when by the time their other profession might get job openings. We've already seen this recently from the high tech professionals who got laid off. They had advanced degrees and entered the Accelerated BSN programs. Their high tech job market turned around just as just they were finishing. A few stayed in nursing to acquire jobs but many went back to their former careers. However, there were also many RNs and RTs who left health care in the 90s during the high tech or real estate boom and then came back into healthcare once those markets went bust taking up a few vacant slots. I also remember the late 70s when everyone was getting a degree in business only to find there were no jobs so a few states were giving them the opportunity retrain in another career which also happened to be nursing. We also have many health care professionals who once were with major airlines like Eastern, including the pilots, who got retrained through state funded programs.
Hopefully by the time someone does finish a nursing or RT degree, the job market may have turned around. I also know many new grad RNs who are waiting for their dream job to come along. I know some who have lots of experience and put themselves above doing what they believe are the undesirable or those beneath their qualifications type of nursing jobs. While the jobs are definitely not as plentiful, there are still some who have written their own card for unemployment.
Yes Grey, I know someone who graduated in May-09 and complains endlessly about not having a nursing job. However, she openly states she will only work CCU, OR or PACU, will not work anything other than 1st shift, and will not work w/e. No word on if she is willing to work holidays, but I doubt it. ;-) She seems to think hospital recruiters should be calling her and begging her to come take day shift in the ICU on Tues Wed and Thurs with a 4 day w/e every week, lol. She presently works at a retail store 8-2 Tues-Fri and says "Why should I give up a day position to work lousy hours?" Seriously, I don't feel too sorry for her. Entry level personnel in any field do not usually get to walk in and name their own terms.
This struck a nerve for me. I am just finishing up my first semester of nursing school as a "non-traditional" student. I am divorced with 2 children and have worked my whole life and still do and I cannot even get enough loans NOT free money but loans to cover my tuition not to mention books. I am all for people improving themselves and getting an education but this is extremely frustrating for me. I work and try to do the right thing and there are others that do as little as possible and expect everything to be handed to them as if they are "owed" something. I am not going in to nursing for the money as I will most likely take a pay cut. I want to be a nurse and have always wanted to be a nurse but life got in the way. Sorry for the ramble I just get very frustrated sometimes, the way our state/government does things is backwards.
I agree about entitlement, but you lost me a little on the rest. It just makes sense that people take advantage of opportunities that are available to them. It's a shame there aren't more available for you. I guess you could move.
Sorry for the ramble. I just get frustrated that I work and go to school and wish the government would help me a little more than those that do nothing and expect everything for free.
GreyGull
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OT and PT require a Masters degree with a doctorate preferred. I can't imagine having that much education paid for by the state and what a great opportunity for someone who can accept it. OT, PT and SLP are in high demand with openings in most hospitals and that is predicted to continue. I know many other states will pay for an EMT, CNA, LVN or even an ADN or A.S if you qualify through their unemployment benefits. And yes, in many areas the market is now flooded. I know in a city nearby just one EMS trade school was pushing out 75 EMTs every 8 weeks and about 30 - 50 Paramedics in an additional 4 months. That was just one school and there were several in the area with each doing the same. Their clinical experiences will not be that great since the hospitals can not schedule that many unsupervised students at one time from all the "trade" schools which have these programs. But, the schools are cashing in on the state funding for retraining.
The negative side of this is that many will sign up for these classes who have never had any interest in a medical profession and waste the space for someone who would truly like to enter that profession. Chances are they may flunk or drop out or even finish when by the time their other profession might get job openings. We've already seen this recently from the high tech professionals who got laid off. They had advanced degrees and entered the Accelerated BSN programs. Their high tech job market turned around just as just they were finishing. A few stayed in nursing to acquire jobs but many went back to their former careers. However, there were also many RNs and RTs who left health care in the 90s during the high tech or real estate boom and then came back into healthcare once those markets went bust taking up a few vacant slots. I also remember the late 70s when everyone was getting a degree in business only to find there were no jobs so a few states were giving them the opportunity retrain in another career which also happened to be nursing. We also have many health care professionals who once were with major airlines like Eastern, including the pilots, who got retrained through state funded programs.
Hopefully by the time someone does finish a nursing or RT degree, the job market may have turned around. I also know many new grad RNs who are waiting for their dream job to come along. I know some who have lots of experience and put themselves above doing what they believe are the undesirable or those beneath their qualifications type of nursing jobs. While the jobs are definitely not as plentiful, there are still some who have written their own card for unemployment.