The Circumcision Discussion - page 37
I know this can be a HUGE debate, and I'm not looking to start any arguments. I was just wondering as you are OB nurses. I'm expecting a boy in July and not sure if we should circ. or not. My... Read More
Mar 10, '07Joined: Oct '06; Posts: 1,256; Likes: 66Quote from sumoeNo, she said she's proud that she DIDN'T cut her son.You are "proud" of cutting your son? Hmmm......
Mar 10, '07Joined: Dec '06; Posts: 481; Likes: 47I haven't read this whole thread, but I saw it when it first came up and started talking about it with a friend/coworker. Each of us thought we'd circumcise our baby boy if we ever had one, but neither one of us had reasons that weren't "fluffy", so we set out to learn more about it.
We spent hours reading and discussing the subject. It was a slow day at work! People kept coming by our office and saying, "You guys are STILL talking about that?". After much debate, we ended up both deciding that we wouldn't have our imaginary, future sons circumcised.
I think there are probably a lot of people out there like my friend and I who would have done it, more or less, because it seemed like the "normal" thing to do. I wish everyone would take as much time to think about it as we did regardless of what the eventually decide to do.
Mar 10, '07Joined: Jan '07; Posts: 2I would only interfere with nature as a last resort.
Unfortunately my youngest son has difficulty urinating and while we have followed the advice of Spec' in retracting foreskin regularly it just is not working, consequently it looks as though he will have to be snipped..,,the older boy ( and my husband) is intact I am happy to say.Last edit by VivaLasViejas on Mar 10, '07 : Reason: Waaaaay TMI!
Mar 10, '07Specialty: 33 year(s) of experience in ER, OR, ICU, PACU, POCU, QA, DC Planning ; Joined: Aug '06; Posts: 31; Likes: 26Quote from GardenDovewhoops! Sorry. Late night!No, she said she's proud that she DIDN'T cut her son.
Mar 10, '07Occupation: NICURN Specialty: 22 year(s) of experience in Level 2 and 3 NICU, outpt peds ; From: US ; Joined: Apr '05; Posts: 94; Likes: 31I don't agree with circs as a whole but will give if the reason is a religious issue. I object to not using an anesthetic! I'd like to tell the doc and/or the parents "let me do "minor" surgery on you without it! I also object to being forced to help out when this is the case! he AAP has a good policy statement on their website aap.org
Mar 10, '07Occupation: Quality Assurance Nurse Specialty: Mostly LTC ; Joined: Nov '06; Posts: 3Obviously you didnt read the entire message because if you did you would know that is said " I am very proud that I didnt put my son through that misery" !! Hmmm......
Mar 10, '07Joined: Oct '02; Posts: 60,582; Likes: 17,343Quote from lvnmom2See post 186, her/his error was pointed out and she/he apologized. Happens to the best of us.Obviously you didnt read the entire message because if you did you would know that is said " I am very proud that I didnt put my son through that misery" !! Hmmm......
Mar 10, '07Occupation: RN ICU Specialty: Accepted...Master's Entry Program, 2008! ; Joined: Sep '06; Posts: 535; Likes: 50Quote from sumoeWait: Early results announced ...suggested that if HIV-positive men do not abstain from sex while healing from circumcision surgery, their female partners might have a higher chance of catching HIV from them.All is not what it appears to be. Here are two more articles on circumcision and AIDS.
What's the point of circumcising men that are ALREADY HIV positive? If they are positive, they shouldn't be having unprotected sex anyway. Kind of makes the circ's in Africa a moot point.
Mar 10, '07Occupation: nursing student Specialty: med surg ; Joined: May '06; Posts: 2Ismail was also circumcised. people seem to think that this is like a Jewish procedure (as in Brit Mila). In Arabic it is called fitrah. http://www.missionislam.com/health/c...sionislam.html
So 1B people practice this procedure. Do women prefer men to be uncircumcised?
This one supports the idea that 3 out of 4 women prefer circumcision. Perhaps because it is more hygienic.
A gay man even states his preference:
"As a gay man who was very active before AIDS came along, I had lots of "upclose and personal" experience with both. I definitely prefer circumcised. There is just no question it is cleaner. Now, individuals who are intact can claim all they want that they, themselves, are squeaky clean and all it takes is to pull it back and wash it to keep it clean. I counter with this: I can't tell you how many times ...was repulsed by the smell of stale and smegma, or I was with an intact guy whose skin didn't retract, strangled the glans, or caused discomfort or pain when manipulated when erect. None of this ever happened with a circumcised guy! As far as hygiene is concerned, I've known guys who got smegma within hours of cleaning it, guys who complained about hairs, lint, and other debris getting worked in under the skin,... I am so glad my parents had me circumcised, as are all the males of all generations in my extended family. I encourage all parents to make the decision for good hygiene and preventative health care and circumcise their newborn sons."
Is there a connection betw women developing CA later:
"Circumsised for me. I cannot even consider the idea of having sex with an uncircumsised man. It looks like the man has on a turtleneck sweater, for starters. Secondly, I think it is unclean. I just read a report about German women having higher rates of cancer, and that it was due to the Germen men generally not being circumsised...It's a lot to think about. If I have a son, he will definitely be circumsised. "
Mar 11, '07Occupation: Neonatal nursing Specialty: 10 year(s) of experience in Med/Surg,Maternal/Child,VNA,Neonatal ; Joined: Mar '07; Posts: 2We use sweet-ease on a paci before and during the circ and it makes an amazing difference. Also, we medicate the child with tylenol for the first 24 hours post circ.
Mar 11, '07Joined: Aug '05; Posts: 15Quote from CRNI-ICU20And we call ourselves the superior species???? There aren't any animals anywhere who would do this to their young.....
Oh, there are animals that eat their young alive.
Mar 11, '07Occupation: RN Specialty: 8 year(s) of experience in ER,med-surg, LTC, psych, dialysis ; From: US ; Joined: May '02; Posts: 338; Likes: 43Mojo, I am not sure why one would quote an OPINION of some unknown person ( and a very insulting opinion I should add) to prove that circumcion is good.
I grew up in a country where men are not circumcised and I never had any problems with any of my partners regarding hygeine. My husband is circumcised but our son isn't and I personally find it offensive when people say (or quote) insulting things regarding circumcision.
And just to add on a subject of HPV, before I came to the US I had a clean bill of health, but I was infected with HPV by a circumcised partner here, in US. I honestly believe that the main cause of any STD is unprotectd sex, not whether one has a foreskin or not.
Mar 11, '07Occupation: semi-retired Specialty: 50 year(s) of experience in Psych, Derm,Eye,Ortho,Prison,Surg,Med, ; Joined: Jan '03; Posts: 187; Likes: 17Ditto !!