Postpartum Nurses being the Baby Nurse?

Specialties Ob/Gyn

Published

Hi All!

My facility is in the process of changing the way babies are handled at delivery and I need your help to find other facilities that do it this way!

A little about my facility... We are a 775 bed hospital in NJ, right outside of NYC. We have about 6,500 deliveries a year, with 50 postpartum beds. The postpartum nurses do couplet care with typically 10-12 nurses for the unit on the floor. We also have two charge nurses and two nursery nurses in the main nurseries to admit babies, assist with circumcisions, handle lab orders and phototherapy babies, as well as feedings for any babies not in the rooms with the mothers and more.

Currently, the L&D nurses are the ones being the Baby Nurse at delivery and in charge of the initial resuscitation and assigning APGAR's. They assist with the skin-to-skin and breastfeeding immediately following. About one to two hours after birth, the L&D nurse will bring the newborn to the nursery for the postpartum nurse to officially admit the baby. We will do the weight, measurements, admission medications, vitals, head-to-toe assessment, bath, and any monitoring that needs to occur. Typically the mother comes up to the postpartum floor shortly after and as soon as the baby is done, we will send the baby out to the mom. Separation time is typically one to two hours.

Right now we are in the process of changing all of that! They would like for a postpartum nurse to attend the delivery and be the Baby Nurse. She would do the initial resuscitation, assign the APGAR's, and then do the whole admission process (except the bath, which will occur later during their stay), in the L&D recovery room. Babies that need closer observation, such as respiratory distress babies, as well as all c-section babies, will still go to the main nursery after delivery for admission. The "goal" or "purpose" of this new change is to keep the mother and baby together. However, there is a lot of push back from the postpartum nurses about not wanting to be the Baby Nurse.

We have been given the opportunity to find a hospital that does it the same way or similar as described above, so that we may do a site visit to better understand the process. I am looking for that hospital!

The key changes are:

-Postpartum nurses being the Baby Nurse and doing the initial resuscitation and APGAR's

-Admitting the baby in L&D

-Once mom is stable and ready for transfer to postpartum, mom and baby would travel together, never being separated

-Decreasing the staff in the main nursery (ours would go from four RN's to two RN's)

I'd like to hear how your hospital handles babies at delivery! I'd love to find a hospital that does it the same way as above so that we could possibly do a site visit!

Thanks for your help!!

We have two separate units: L&D and postpartum.

There are limited postpartum nurses that are trained to second in deliveries. Most of the nurses that are the "second" or "baby nurse" are L&D nurses. If we are busy, we pull from postpartum to do seconding. However, a lot of those nurses do not like to come down to L&D.

We do delayed bathing and skin to skin for 1 hour post delivery if baby and mom are doing well at delivery. We like as much bonding/transitioning on mom as we can. This means waiting an hour for weights/measurements. The first breastfeed is done within the first hour of skin to skin. We are going baby friendly here soon.

Mom and baby both recover in L&D for two hours post delivery. Then they go up to postpartum. Rooming-in is what we do with all couplets. We have a nursery, but it's used for procedures. We can take the baby in the nursery for a couple hours to let mom rest, though. But it's not standard practice.

Interesting! Where is the baby actually admitted? Like meds, assessment, vitals, etc., in L+D or up on postpartum?

Our hospital has created the neonatel assessment nurse. They are typically NICU nurses who have been cross trained or direct hires. The NAN do all the initial and ongoing treatments for the baby while the baby is in L and D with the mom. The purpose is to decrease separation. The infant will only come to the nursery for monitoring or sepsis work ups.

Are they also the baby nurse at delivery assigning apgars and resuscitating as needed?

I'm curious to hear how different hospitals do this as well. I am a NICU nurse but we are cross trained to nursery and have a lot of stress and anxiety of how it is handled where I work. Labor nurses only cover the mother. Some labor nurses are nursery trained, but there is a lot of pushback from the nurses who do not wish to do nursery. There is one (!) or very rarely two nursery nurses on per shift. The physical nursery is not used except for circs/hearing/CCHD testing after baby has been moved to postpartum with mom. The nursery nurse is responsible for attending all deliveries, resuscitating baby, APGARs, assessment, q30min vitals, weight/length, meds, breastfeeding/skin to skin, any blood glucose's, etc. during the two hour stay with mom in labor and delivery. This is for every baby that delivers on your shift. So if three babies deliver within a two hour period you are responsible for this all in a timely manner before sending baby off with mom. If you are lucky, that labor nurse is trained with the babies and can take a set of vitals while you are running to the next delivery. There is a lot of pushback to make any changes to this as labor nurses do not want to take the responsibility of doing both mom and baby.

I think it's weird to have a NICU nurse doing that role, unless the baby needed special care. The postpartum nurses do couplet care?

When I first started, we did it like you currently do it. Labor nurse (usually the charge nurse, the moms primary nurse concentrated on mom) did resus/apgars (always straight to the warmer after cord was cut), we grabbed a weight and foot prints in the room, then handed baby to mom for a bit to nurse/hold and then usually around the 2 hour mark when we were ready to move mom to PP, we dropped baby off in the nursery for admission/bath/meds. Baby was returned to mom once it was warmed up after the bath. A lot of our staff is trained in labor and postpartum and we float back and forth, but there are some that only do labor or only do PP/nursery. Our nursery trained nurses could be baby nurse if we were in a pinch and charge was in another delivery.

We went "baby friendly" a couple years ago. Now we still have the charge or another labor/nursery nurse catch baby and do resus. Baby goes straight to moms skin after delivery and Apgars/vitals/tactile stim/bulb suction are all done on moms chest. If they need more we whisk them over to the warmer. Weight/prints/meds/assessment are all done in the delivery room by the nursery nurse (we call her when we are ready) after mom has had at least 1 hour of skin to skin and attempted the first feed. Sometimes the labor nurse does the assessment, etc if it's an easy recovery and we have time. Baths are done 12 hours after birth in the PP room by either the PCA or the PP nurse. Baby and mom go to the PP room together and are never separated unless medically necessary or mom requests the baby go to the nursery for a bit so she can rest.

This is how we are aiming to go, however we will have 2 postpartum nurses assigned to L&D that day to stay down there and be the baby nurse. It makes so much more sense for us to just go down an hour after delivery, in my opinion.

Specializes in L&D.
Interesting! Where is the baby actually admitted? Like meds, assessment, vitals, etc., in L+D or up on postpartum?

We admit the baby on L&D and put standing orders in. We do an initial assessment, measurements, growth chart, and two hours of vitals all on L&D. We also give vitamin K and the erythromycin eye ointment in L&D. Essentially, there are two nurses for a recovery. But sometimes there is one nurse to do both Mom and baby recovery if we are busy.

Specializes in Neonatal Nurse Practitioner.

I work at birthing hospital with 8000+ deliveries a year. Mother/baby runs the transition nursery. Those specially trained nurses (worked in M/B for a minimum of 2 years and then apply to and train for transition) attend all of the deliveries that NICU doesn't go to. They catch the baby and do all of the initial stuff baby friendly and all that. They admit the baby in L&D or the OR. They handoff to the M/B nurse when mom and baby head to the floor. They have a physical nursery where they can monitor iffy babies for up to 6 hours. At that point they either go back to mom or to the NICU.

Interesting. Do they do couplet care on the postpartum floor? Are the transition nurses and the nurses in the nursery also postpartum nurses, depends on the day?

Specializes in Neonatal Nurse Practitioner.
Interesting. Do they do couplet care on the postpartum floor? Are the transition nurses and the nurses in the nursery also postpartum nurses, depends on the day?

Yes. Couplet care is standard. That's why it's mother/baby instead of postpartum. The transition nurses can work M/B if they are short, but Transition is their job. M/B nurses cannot work transition. While transition is under the umbrella of M/B, it is separate. Transition nursery is more conceptual vs physical. It mostly occurs at the mother's bedside. A healthy baby won't leave mom. The transition nurse will sit at the L&D nursing station. M/B nurses do staff the well-baby nurseries.

Our PP do assign apgars and provide resuscitation. We are NRP certified. However , if resuscitation is needed than we also call the NICU nurses and NPs to take over.

Our PP do assign apgars and provide resuscitation. We are NRP certified. However , if resuscitation is needed than we also call the NICU nurses and NPs to take over.

How does your "flow" work? Do the PP nurses stay in L&D for delivery's or come when needed? Do you do the rest of the admission in L&D?

If we are the NAN nurse we do the admission assessment , meds and everything else needed on l and D. We take care of the baby until we are called to another delivery. At that time we quickly report of to the L and D nurse and go to the next delivery .

Specializes in NICU Level 3.

I am a PP nurse in a very busy hospital with 6000+ births per year. We have L&D, PP, and Newborn Nursery as 3 seperate units. L&D nurses labor with the mom and at the time of delivery I believe the charge nurse or some other "head/lead" nurse catches the baby and then newborn nursery will come in to transition the baby (give baths, meds, etc). NICU is always on stand-by in case additional help is needed.

For c-sections the newborn nursery nurse catches the baby, stimulates baby, assigns apgars then will take baby to newborn nursery to transition while mom is still in the OR. Once mom is in recovery and if baby is doing well then baby goes to be with mom in recovery.

PP nurses take care of mom and baby once baby has been transitioned and is stable. We are cross trained to go to L&D to help recover moms after a normal lady partsl birth- recovery time is 2 hours.

+ Add a Comment