Published Dec 26, 2005
enorman
15 Posts
Hi,
my name is Eli, I am new to this site and wanted to know if anyone can offer me advice about selecting the appropriate nursing school. I got accepted to NYU 15-month nursing program but their financial aid package sucks. I also applied to Downstate's Accelerated program. I will not hear from them till after February 2nd and NYU starts January 17. I don't know whether to reject NYUs acceptance and wait to see if i get in to Downstate or just take out the loans. Can someone help me with this decision. Is NYU really that great of a nursing school that I should put myself in major debt. I have family obligations and do not want to make the wrong decisions; however, i also don't want to reject NYU to find out that i have not been accepted to Downstate. What are your experinces with these schools. Is anyone else Attending NYU this Spring. Any replies would be greatly appreciated because I am so confused and running out of time.
thanks,
Eli
echinacea
16 Posts
Hi Eli, Can you find out where you stand in terms of the pool of applicants for SUNY? Do you have a sense of how your GPA and other criteria compares to other accepted students in previous semesters?
I can relate to your problem. I'm really frustrated by the lack of affordable BSN programs here. I've even considered going the associate’s degree route because the expense of the BSN is so high. (Assuming I don't get into SUNY) But I don't want to have to go back to school in the future. So even though I have considerable student loans from my first degree, I will probably go to NYU and take on more debt. For me it comes down to convenience and quality. I have 2 kids and my husband works long hours, so I would hate to be stuck on the subway for hours going to and from school when I could be with them. And another advantage of NYU is it seems like a supportive environment, and free of the hassles of SUNY/CUNY bureaucracy. When you pay that much money you should expect higher quality facilities too. Also I have talked to RN's working in good jobs, and I get from them that the BSN is worth it and NYU is a good school. Of course whether it is worth the debt to you is a totally different question than whether it is worth the debt to me. NYU would not be my first choice if there was a cheaper BSN program close to me.
But, back to your problem. How about deferring your start date at NYU until September? If you feel you have a good chance of getting into Downstate, you absolutely have to keep your options open.
Hav you applied to the various scholarships NYU offers?
Best of luck!
(And it would be great to hear from current NYU accelerated students who have taken out loans to pay for it. I went to an info session and several students spoke, and all were very positive about their experiences. But no one asked how they felt about the expense. I mean, $30k a year is pretty outrageous, even for a private school.)
thanks for the advice. I do have a pretty good chance of getting into Downstate because I have a very good GPA. However, due to the transit strike my grades from the fall semester are not going to be in on time for Downstate's application deadline. When I told Downstate about this they didn't seem to consider my situation and that got me nervous. It is not my fault that my finals got rescheduled but i guess they can not consider everyone's situations. So, to avoid a problem i decided to go to NYU. I figure I will pay the loans back slowly once I'm working and in the long run it isn't really that much money. From what I hear, NYU is a really good nursing program so I am just going to go and try to fight for more financial aid - it cant hurt.
It would be nice to hear from anyone who has gone to NYU or is going this Spring.
Thanks,
Sammi15
178 Posts
Hi, thanks for the advice. I do have a pretty good chance of getting into Downstate because I have a very good GPA. However, due to the transit strike my grades from the fall semester are not going to be in on time for Downstate's application deadline. When I told Downstate about this they didn't seem to consider my situation and that got me nervous. It is not my fault that my finals got rescheduled but i guess they can not consider everyone's situations. So, to avoid a problem i decided to go to NYU. I figure I will pay the loans back slowly once I'm working and in the long run it isn't really that much money. From what I hear, NYU is a really good nursing program so I am just going to go and try to fight for more financial aid - it cant hurt. It would be nice to hear from anyone who has gone to NYU or is going this Spring. Thanks, Eli
Hi, Eli
I just finished my first semester in the 15-month accelerated program. I want to welcome you to NYU, it's a great school. Don't want to scare you but you really have to work very, very, very....hard. Afterall, passing is a B-. Word of advice, plan ahead and study every single day. Anyway, good luck and welcome!
Happy New Year!
ok, new question. This morning i got accepted to Downstate which was weird because they were giving me problems, but i am not complaining. My main concern is which school is the better school and is there a salary difference for those that attended NYU vs. Downstate. Please help.
drizzle
59 Posts
hello eli,
congrats to your acceptance!! i understand very much about your concerns; i am still trying to finish up my pre-reqs but already applied to the accelerated program in nyu (for the fall '06), a regular adn program in a cuny school, and regular bsn program in liu, and adelphi; downstate was in my list before and i was hoping to get into downstate also, and in the early fall i actually pay a visit to their open house...but after that visit i changed my mind about going there even if they do accept me:stone !
don't get me wrong, not that they dun have good educations but the environment was...scary:uhoh21: . only the 4 streets and corner around the school was not scary at all but on my way from the subway to the school was. i would have jumped right back into the subway train and gone home if i haven't made my friend come with me:p ! i've heard bad things happened in that neighborhood i just cannot imagine myself having to worry everyday going to and back from the school:uhoh3: .
but ofcuz i also know that a lot of people been doing this also and nothing happened to them and they are ok with it, but just not me. so it's different for everyone; i would suggest you to actually pay a visit to downstate and see for yourself if you are comfy or not. i would definitely go to downstate if not for the safety concerns; it sure saves lots of money! but it looks like there's a big chance i am going to nyu but yet i think i am gonna die having to take that big loan out:crying2: ....oh...dilemma ~dilemma!
and for salary-wise i seriously do not think there's going to be much differences with the same bsn degree you getting, they pay about the same no matter where you graduate from. but again i've heard others said that with nyu you might get more opportunities...
well just like you i do also have lots of questions about choosing the right school.....anyway i hope my answer does help you out and good luck!:)
wow, its interesting that you say that the area is dangerous because that is one of my husbands concerns about me attending Downstate. im not scared myself but i dont want my husband to worry. oh, this is really hard.
thanks for the info,
kgrands
41 Posts
Hi Eli,
If you have concerns about safety around the school, you could always set up a subway-pool with other students that are heading that way. It might make you (and your husband) feel better about the commute. And you could do a study-group while on the train! :wink2:
Also, from what I understand, most of the classes are daytime which helps.
-katie
roseynurse345
160 Posts
I went to NYU, if I had to do over again, I would have went somewhere cheaper, I'm struggling to pay off my student loans. Trust me, NYU has a large burecraucy, it is one of the largest private universities in the country. However, I understand about safety issues and it is important to travel to safe neighborhood. Good Luck with school.
Hi Rosey, Thanks for posting, I have been wondering if NYU grads regret the loans. I consolidated my earlier student loans and pay a low monthly amount -- for 25 years to come. I hope more loan repayment benefits start cropping up to recruit BSN nurses, but I don't count on it.
To others in the same boat (Drizzle, et al) As far as I know Hunter is the only convenient and relatively cheap BSN for many students, but they make you enroll for a semester before they will even consider your application. And from what I hear, forget about getting into the science pre-req's there because the classes are completely filled up with science majors before they even allow you to register. (Hunter students correct me if I'm wrong.) Also, there's that 2nd semester of Chem they require, sigh...
To Drizzle, That's great that you applied to so many programs. You really have it together. I'm trying to get this done before the semester begins. This may be a stupid question, sorry ... but when you applied to all those different programs did you ask your professors/supervisors to send out multiple letters of recommendation (one to each school)? (I assume the answer is "yes, duh") And did they provide copies of the same letter addressed to each school, or did they fill out those forms provided by the admissions office?
It makes sense that NYU's nursing enrollment is soaring. There is a real shortage of reasonable options.
hey echinacea,
nice seeing you again, you've posted to my previous thread "the cuny nursing school survey" - so i knew we are in the same boat and it is nice to have someone with similar situations to share their views with.:cheers:
yeah i was going to apply to cuny, downstate and stony only but thank god i came across allnurses and found out so much more! basically stony and hunter was out of my list after i read this site; stony is hard to get into, doesn't accept applications already (i was gonna go for the summer program) back in october when i wanted to apply; hunter has to be enrolled in beforehand, 2 chems, and also makes your life in hell even if you are in the program (according to one of my rn friend from another cuny school), pace does not have a good nursing program (i've heard at least 3 person saying that; but anyway that's not the primary reason why i didn't apply there...), downstate like i've posted in this thread i really dun like the environment also i've pasted the deadline already....i am not even thinking about columbia since it's toooo expensive for a bsn....i learn that adelphi and liu has regular bsn from allnurses so i applied as soon as i can as a back up plan just incase i dun get into nyu or cuny.
actually like a lot of people have said, taking out loans for school is actually considered a good loan but i am just worrying that what if i dun make it half way thru? this thought just scares me and makes me just want to go to cuny....but 2 years adn vs. 15 months bsn i really rather just go for the bsn to get it over and done with...but the money...sigh....:icon_roll
anyway, i am sorry i've gone discrete....:selfbonk: to answer your question (btw, it is not a stupid question, u should have seen some of mine stupid question to the admission office!!) since i am only a non-degree student in citytech and having only been there for 1 semester taking my pre-req, i really couldn't get any professors to write me a decent recommendation letters; so i ended up asking my boss, which is a doctor since i works in a medical office, and to an rn.
-when you applied to all those different programs did you ask your professors/supervisors to send out multiple letters of recommendation (one to each school)? -à well, yes, duh! :wink2: j/k!!! oh just so that you know since i've made up my mind on about 4 school, i only need recommendation letters for nyu; cuny doesn't need them, liu did not require it, and adelphi gave you an option to sent one letter in but not mandatory. i only ask one of them to send out a same letter to adelphi, and like i said since it's not mandatory for adelphi's regular bsn program to submit recommendation letters they dun have a specific form for that and so it's just the same letter but addressed to this school.
-and did they provide copies of the same letter addressed to each school, or did they fill out those forms provided by the admissions office? --à yeah i gave them the forms from nyu, have them fill out the demo part and have them wrote the letter separately on another piece of paper (because on the form it said they could write it on the form or type it on another piece of paper).
hey echinacea, if you want to get into nyu's fall '06 semester the dead line is march, i know it seems far from now but before you know it, march will be here soon just like when i started to apply to schools in october and boom it's january already and it doesn't seem too long ago too!
so act now because you also need to write a good essay and make times for your professor/supervisor to write up their letters. so how many schools have you apply to so far? and did you made up your mind yet about going to cuny or into the accelerated program?
wow i wrote enough :typing , if you have any more questions, feel free to pm me so i could get into details more (my god i wrote too much, i think i was gonna take up this whole page!) and so good luck with everything!:)
littlenurse21
113 Posts
Hey guys,
I go to NYU rite now and I'm majoring in Nutrition and Health.. Almost done with that.. But I've been thinking about where I should go to get a second degree. And NYU is out of the question cause I already owe enough money to them.. The only options here in NY are 1. NYU 2. Columbia 3. Stony 4. Downstate 5. Pace
Anyone know of any others?
Thanks