Nybon Nursing School Under Investigation

I finished my LPN-RN program from Carleen Health Institute. I took the NCLEX under New York state board and passed the exam. I'd been waiting on the license a couple of weeks and decided to call NYbon, was told the school is under review - hence they would not be issuing any licenses till the review is done. They also wouldn't give a time frame. Does anyone have any idea how long these reviews usually take or what could be done in situations like this?

Idealista said:

I know that many seem angry at the NY Board of Nursing for just not accepting the Florida schools' education for sitting for the NCLEX for a NY nursing license - or for revoking the licenses they have.

These FL students are requesting a nursing license from the NY BON. It is never guaranteed that one will be issued a license -  and if they feel uncomfortable with a nurse's background - they have the right to reject it. (And I am absolutely certain that with their limited resources the NY BON would rather be doing other, necessary work than dealing with the FL schools debacle.)

I saw a mention here that the NY Board "should take the student's hard work into account" and "let them through". That's not it works. The NY BON sets the rules for nursing practice in NY -  just as FL does in Florida. Their goal is public protection - period. But, in all fairness, the NY BON does not owe these FL graduates a license. Their anger is misplaced. It should be squarely directed at the FL Board of Nursing and the owners and administrators of these schools. Not the NY BON.

 

I agree with what u are saying. You cannot expect another board of nursing to accept what the other excepted.  And the note of taking away license.  They did not take away active license from those that went to those schools in the scandal. They took away who came forward. Those nurses are still actively working in NY with no action taken. NYBON is obviously basis, do the same for all. They basically sending message saying is OK to fraud the system and if u have license with them your fine but the rest its a no. Make it make sense

G_Status said:

I think that this is how they should do things for sure going forward but what about those who went to programs not on federal fraud list and passed the boards. Alot of schools were approved not accredited but they should let us through. We passed before any emergency action was put in. We shouldn't fall into this new category. We did the course work and clinicals that were required of us and it wasn't easy work. We had to study hard. If it wasn't for this debacle, we would of had our licenses a long time ago. It's the people that decided to sell transcripts and diplomas without school work or clinicals that are the real culprits. They have the list of everyone already. The feds did the leg work. We are not a part of that. How many other nurses passed from said programs working already from before. Are they going to revoke everyone else? I don't think so. NYBON needs to take that into consideration and let us through. We just want to further our careers. God willing they let us through, right back to school for me for MSN from an accredited program.

Just  to let you know dosent matter if you go to a accredited school for BSN or MSN , THE boards look at where you first went for the foundation of your nursing  that allowed you to sit for the boards. With that you will always be denied if its pertaining to one of those schools or a school not accredited that they feel dosent comply with there standards.  Lastly, most of those schools in Florida that are approved have no accreditation this is why people have to pay out of pocket. It is not backed by Fasa ( which is federal government for aid). Always look for a school that has some form of federal accredition. If it doesn't have any aid it isn't accredited 

Maria30 said:

I agree with what u are saying. You cannot expect another board of nursing to accept what the other excepted.  And the note of taking away license.  They did not take away active license from those that went to those schools in the scandal. They took away who came forward. Those nurses are still actively working in NY with no action taken. NYBON is obviously basis, do the same for all. They basically sending message saying is OK to fraud the system and if u have license with them your fine but the rest its a no. Make it make sense

I believe this is still an ongoing process. They probably just haven't made any final decisions on what to do with the nurses that are already licensed and practicing. 

You probably are right, but if they were so concerned with those nurse they would at least suspended there license by now. I believe there holding others for what those nurses with license did. Which to me isn't right at all. 

Maria30 said:

You probably are right, but if they were so concerned with those nurse they would at least suspended there license by now. I believe there holding others for what those nurses with license did. Which to me isn't right at all. 

I'm thinking they haven't suspended them yet because NY has their hands filled with all this mess going on. If they suspend all these nurses I believe they have the right to a fair hearing within 30 days. 

NYtoCTRN said:

I'm thinking they haven't suspended them yet because NY has their hands filled with all this mess going on. If they suspend all these nurses I believe they have the right to a fair hearing within 30 days. 

Other states have been giving hearings and asking for evidence and ruling to revoke due to no evidence.  There are so many that never went to school its a shame. Ny need to do the same with providing hearings so they can get down to the bottom of it. But they are very slow with anything they do,

 

NYtoCTRN said:

I'm thinking they haven't suspended them yet because NY has their hands filled with all this mess going on. If they suspend all these nurses I believe they have the right to a fair hearing within 30 days. 

Agree...! Also, while most states have only a handful of nurses to deal with: 22 in Georgia, a few in Texas and Florida - NY has 903 cases to investigate. This is by far the largest number of any state. (As a side note, Georgia demanded that all 22 nurses return their licenses. Not one of them did.) 

Idealista said:

Agree...! Also, while most states have only a handful of nurses to deal with: 22 in Georgia, a few in Texas and Florida - NY has 903 cases to investigate. This is by far the largest number of any state. (As a side note, Georgia demanded that all 22 nurses return their licenses. Not one of them did.) 

There is no investigation for those 903. It was already concluded that their education doesn't meet NY standards since they attended one of the schools on the fed fraud list. They were given the option to prove credentials or surrender the license without disciplinary action. Those that decide not to surrender their license will suffer the consequences eventually. It is just a matter of time. For those of us still waiting, NYBON has not made any official announcement pertaining to the Florida approved schools that didn't commit any fraud. NYBON is still throughly investigating. Like I said before, I hope they are bit more lenient with us and we don't suffer the same fate as those who attended the schools accused of fraud. You also need to remember that there are those that actual went to class and clinical but because their schools were engaged in fraudulent activity, their education is deemed insufficient. We are also suffering the consequences of these schools and are now stuck in limbo wondering if our educations will meet NYBON standards. I also wonder what they will do with the nurses who are licensed and working that graduated from Florida approved schools not on fraud list. Will they also have to surrender licenses also? It just waiting game at this point. Let's just continue to pray.

I don't think the State will take nursing licensed who already  licensed for years   and  who attended nursing  aproved nursing school in florida before 04/18/2023 . Out of state nursing programs New laws

Did anybody write to ny BON after they receive the email about score cancellations. Did anybody take initiative or just didn't bother and went back to school? 

Specializes in Licence practical Nurse , surgical technologist.

Hi, I want to know if you can retake the nursing BON in Florida.

mendez said:

Hi, I want to know if you can retake the nursing BON in Florida.

Yes you can retake the NCLEX in FL. You just have to contact FL BON. They have to have your school credentials already. A lot of people tested in FL first and didn't pass so they went to NY to take it where there is no limit. So because of that, FL would already have educational credentials needed. You if you had your credentials sent to NY BON directly then you would have to send your credentials to FL BON before they let you test again.

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