I am starting a new thread to track cases from NVC - embassy to GC.
The best news for RN in China, Phillippines and India has been great and informative thread, but I think it is more appropriate and convenient if we start a new thread.
Also with the rapid scheduling of interviews for most of us, I am looking beyond the CP and anticipating the GC!
The August interview schedules are out already in India, and recently in the Philippines and hopefully in China.
Here is my case details
Category : EX Schedule A
USCIS receipt : April 2004
Processing Center : Vermont
I-140 approved : October 2004
NVC case number : MNL2004813XXX
NVC forwarded packet 3 : April 5, 2005
Packet 3 sent back to NVC : May 3, 2005
NVC case completed : May 16, 2005
Consular Interview : August 29, 2005
Visa received : ???
Date of entry in the US :???
GC receive : ????
I hope you can also post here your details interview experience.
There is one thing that can be done to verify all the confusion about the job offer letter and that is to check with the US embassy first. Secondly ask about this from the hospital that is petitioning you and if possible if you can, also from an immigration lawyer.
Presently,as of today, the Manila US Embassy only requires an Official Job Offer with the salary stated from the potential U.S. employer, issued less than one year prior to visa application.
The issue right now is that the facility may not be able to provide a job for you, and then you will be in a pickle when you get here. Things are drastically different then they were even three weeks ago, the economy has taken a nose dive as we call it here.
Expect quite a few contracts to fall off. If the facility is not able to hire an American at this time, then they most certainly are not going to be able to bring a foreign nurse over to the US to work.
Expect things to change drastically with what is required, remember that there are also no visas available right now for the most part as well. Things are just bad here, plain and simple and not what one is going to be expecting. Trying to get a loan for a car is going to be almost impossible to do at this time as well if you have no credit in the US. And getting any type of credit card as well.
According to Topscot, he has gotten in touch with his employer and was assured that they still want him and the petition remains ok.
September 27, 2008, Suzanne's reply to Topscot was:
Unfortunately, your employer is not being very truthful with you. It is not just having a job offer that is current for you, but they will need to provide documentation to the US federal government that they are still unable to fill that position with an American at this time. Quite a few facilities are having lay-offs or hiring freezes at this
Now, suzanne is saying:
You must have a current job offer letter when you have your interview and the facility must provide proof that they have a job for you, this is where things are going to get sticky for some. If the facility is under a hiring freeze, they are not going to be able to provide this letter that there is work for you.
Suzanne,
So which is which? In your reply to Topscot, you're saying that an updates job offer letter is not enough. Now, you're saying that if you have an updated job offer letter, you'll be fine.
Job offers are just a part of the requirements needed by the hospital/company to satisfy the federal requirements to hire foreign nationals under immigrant visa. I think Suzanne was and is consistent about the following:
1. The company/hospital needs to prove that they cannot find an American/US Permanent Resident to fill up their position/RN requirements even after exhausting all possible means within a reasonable time before they can have a legitimate job offer.
2.With the current hiring freeze, and number of US new grad, experienced US RN looking for a job and unemployed RN. It is going to be more difficult to prove that they cannot find anyone in the US to fill their vacancies. Hiring or petitioning a foreign RN will be unjustifiable at this time with the current situation.
3. Job offers are not a guarantee, no matter what your agency is saying, that you will be able to get a visa. Agencies and lawyers are not the one who issues visa, so no one can tell. If you have a legitimate job offer DURING your consular inteview, it will just increase your chance, but no one can guarantee.
4. The job offered to you when you signed with an agency/hospital can always be retracted anytime. (The same thing here in the US, that hospitals can terminate an RN anytime. "AT WILL" status)
So to the answer your questions, job offers is not enough and even if you have a job offers it will just increase your chance but not a guarantee.
Im just reading the previous post, and I dont see Suzanne saying than an updated job offer is enough.
The issue right now is that the facility may not be able to provide a job for you, and then you will be in a pickle when you get here. Things are drastically different then they were even three weeks ago, the economy has taken a nose dive as we call it here.
Expect quite a few contracts to fall off. If the facility is not able to hire an American at this time, then they most certainly are not going to be able to bring a foreign nurse over to the US to work.
Expect things to change drastically with what is required, remember that there are also no visas available right now for the most part as well. Things are just bad here, plain and simple and not what one is going to be expecting. Trying to get a loan for a car is going to be almost impossible to do at this time as well if you have no credit in the US. And getting any type of credit card as well.
Amen! Not looking good here, and no silver lining in the near future.
Specializes in Medical and general practice now LTC.
4. The job offered to you when you signed with an agency/hospital can always be retracted anytime. (The same thing here in the US, that hospitals can terminate an RN anytime. "AT WILL" status)
Totally agree with this. My first hospital backed out and I had to start all over again, I had approval but it didn't matter. Otherwise I would have been out in the US in 2005
As what I learned form your previous post, Your employer/hospital/petitioner had backed out, otherwise you could have been in US long time ago.
In your case, did u start all over again? how about the I-140 filing, what happened? did the NVC granted you with the same PD, or you got a new PD?
Mine was all the same.Only the Petitioner in the 2nd filing/notice of approval had changed. I dont know as to how it had happened, and perhaps a big mistake from the NVC. Mam Suzzane also feels odd about this, me too is still having some doubts till now.
Specializes in Medical and general practice now LTC.
To Silver Dragon.
As what I learned form your previous post, Your employer/hospital/petitioner had backed out, otherwise you could have been in US long time ago.
In your case, did u start all over again? how about the I-140 filing, what happened? did the NVC granted you with the same PD, or you got a new PD?
Mine was all the same.Only the Petitioner in the 2nd filing/notice of approval had changed. I dont know as to how it had happened, and perhaps a big mistake from the NVC. Mam Suzzane also feels odd about this, me too is still having some doubts till now.
Hope to hear your story on how it went through.
Godbles
I had to start all over again from the beginning and file a new I140 and had to get a new PD
Me too, the 2nd employer filed a new I-140 for me, it was last May 21, 2007 that they filed using the so called Premium Processing, May 31, 2007 I got the new I140 approval notice/paket 2. To my amaze, same PD of August 9, 2005.
When my 2nd I140 was filed, as far as I could recall, the Lawyer asked me to submit to them a copy of my first/previous I-140 approval notice ( Paket 2). Accordingly they have to attach this doc, the time they've filed the new petition.
In the site of ATTY GOTCHER, he stated over and over again that once you have a PD, this can be use when filing another petition when previous application deemed unsuccessful. Regardless of visa categories/filing.
Let us just wait and see what will I have to face sooner or later. I hope PD will advance with the orn of November VB.
1. If the hospital is not being truthful to Topscot that the job offer is still standing, why would they be so and what on earth is their reason?
2. If the visa situation is so bleak for the nurses to come over here because of the current situation and that the petitioning hospital knows this, why don't the petitioning hospitals just cancel the job offer and spare the expecting nurses from so much grief,stress,and money?
1. if the hospital is not being truthful to topscot that the job offer is still standing, why would they be so and what on earth is their reason? - there's a middle man in topscot's situation and that's the agency. the agency have investment in this case so they want to maintain their "nursing pool" in the event that us open up again. if the agency will tell topscot that there's no active job offers, do you think he will remain with this agency? if he left, there goes their investment. so they will try to hold on to topscot for as long as they can hoping theat us open up again, or the agency eventually decide that is not good business communicating with their prospect. or whichever comes first. so it's not really the hospital who is not being truthful.
2. if the visa situation is so bleak for the nurses to come over here because of the current situation and that the petitioning hospital knows this, why don't the petitioning hospitals just cancel the job offer and spare the expecting nurses from so much grief,stress,and money?
see my answer above. in most cases, agency provides the job offers to the rn since rn's are employed under the agency and not under the hospitals
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There is one thing that can be done to verify all the confusion about the job offer letter and that is to check with the US embassy first. Secondly ask about this from the hospital that is petitioning you and if possible if you can, also from an immigration lawyer.
Presently,as of today, the Manila US Embassy only requires an Official Job Offer with the salary stated from the potential U.S. employer, issued less than one year prior to visa application.