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Hello everyone! I'm interested in taking up a Midwife BSN, but I'd like to go further with it and I've not seen much information on the subject. I have a few direct questions though, which are -
- If I did my 3 year BSN as a Midwife, could I do a course ontop of that and become a RN (such as an 18 month course, or would I have to go back to university and do a 3 year RN specific BSN)? So I'd be a nurse-midwife and could potentially go into either field (as opposed to only being a midwife)?
- What can midwives "specialise" in past their initial degree? Such as, nurses can go into ICU, are midwives able to go into those fields as well or do they have their own set of specialties? Is there a website list or a location for this information someone could show me to?
- I hear a lot of problems with English RN immigrating to other countries due to not having the "time" in education (such as, the NCLEX needing a specific amount of hours in education in various fields). If I was to just leave with my midwifery degree, would I not be able to obtain a license in the USA (for example)? If not, how could a midwife get the time needed, what sort of option are available?
Any help or advice/links on these would be extremely helpful, thank you very much!
Extra note - I actually have a UK Passport and a Green Card for the US, as I'm married to a US citizen, so that side of immigration isn't applicable to me, it's more about the education and licensing.
So I'm by no means an expert in this area, but ill see if I can help out. A little about me: I recently obtained my BSN and RN and I am an aspiring nurse midwife. I looked into this stuff a little because I originally wanted to study midwifery in the UK. I have always admired the fact that people in the UK still know what a midwife is! Here, awareness of midwifery care is growing as well as the number of midwives, but it's still a struggle. I regularly encounter people who don't know what a midwife is. The good news midwifery popularity is definitely growing.
From what I can tell, unfortunately there is not really any reciprocity. The UK does not seem to acknowledge the CNM and the US does not acknowledge the UK-trained midwife. Here to become a midwife you need to be an RN and have a Masters in Nursing or Midwifery. The questions I would ask you would be are you definitely coming to the US? If so, which states? There is a highly respected online program which recognizes foreign training. After completing their program you can sit for the same exam that nurse midwives take but after passing you are given the title Certified Midwife (CM) instead of Certified Nurse Midwife (CNM). The downside to this is that the CM is only recognized in 3 states - NY, NJ, and RI. If you were certain you would be in those states this could be an option after you complete the BS in Midwifery from the UK. Take a look:
I'm not familiar w the issues surrounding the number of hours in a nursing program r/t sitting for the NCLEX. But, what about doing the BS in nursing and then doing a shorter course in midwifery to work there as a midwife? Like this one:
If you're not sure where you'll end up, perhaps you could do it that way with the longer nursing course followed by the midwifery course. That way, you'll be able to work as a midwife in the UK and if you come over here you'll have enough nursing hours to sit for the NCLEX. You'd then need to complete a masters in nursing or midwifery. Frontier Nursing University is a wonderful distance program which you could look into once you have the RN: http://www.frontier.edu/
Whichever way you choose, I think it would be a long haul. Unfortunately I'm not sure if there's a faster way to do it. If only there was some reciprocity!
As far as "specializing" goes, midwives here don't really do that the way nurses do. Some midwives have specialties like working mostly w adolescents or menopausal women or being proficient in herbal medicine. Here they're considered primary care providers and provide not only perinatal care but also well woman care and primary care. In most states they have prescriptive abilities. They are pretty autonomous too- consulting w physicians as needed but not all the time. You can pretty much choose what population you most want to work with but there aren't really additional certifications. Personally, I don't think its necessary anyway. In our nursing/healthcare system they're considered mid-level providers and are essentially one step below physicians. Let me know if I can answer more questions. Best of luck!