Nursing School has it all wrong.

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by roscopeeco roscopeeco (Member)

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roscopeeco

roscopeeco

45 Posts

I'm sorry that you seem to find nursing school frustrating; I was just trying to point out that you really do utilize some of this stuff. But it sounds like you have everything figured out.

I am not saying it is all in vain. I am just saying it could be much better. I don't have it all figured out. I do know that there is a lot of time wasted. Much of the things they teach are common sense. They are taking a natural science and making it into a human science. Most of the theorists are socialists anyhow. They get their ideas from marxists philosophers.

morte

morte, LPN, LVN

7,015 Posts

Disturbed Energy Field....great one NANDA. We look like a bunch of tards out there. Nursing has the habit of making a simple concept into a convoluted mess. I guess there is an inferiority complex. I don't have that complex. I am worried about keeping patients alive not making sure I bend over backwards to accommodate every culturally appropriate intervention. There is neither time nor money to incorporate it all. Sorry for my grammar mistakes and all that comes along with venting at a frantic pace. I have had it with nursing school thus far. I want to go to P.A. school.

yes, this is what you should do, and leave your slot in nursing school to someone whom really wants to be there, and gets what nursing is about.

roscopeeco

roscopeeco

45 Posts

I think too fast for my typing...words like cirriculum should be spelled curriculum. Feel should be fill.

I have put up with the "eat your young" mentality in the classroom and in clinicals. I have put up with nursing diagnosis' that are ridiculous. I have put up with interventions that I would rather not mention on paper because they are so elementary and obvious. OB clinicals, "turn the patient to her side".

It is intellectually numbing.

Then I have to go to a med-surge floor and watch nurses bully others all day long. Stop bullying others. Just because you have been nursing for 20 years doesn't mean much. It just means you can clean butt more efficiently than others. It is all one big high school click all over again in every department.

roscopeeco

roscopeeco

45 Posts

yes, this is what you should do, and leave your slot in nursing school to someone whom really wants to be there, and gets what nursing is about.

Tell me what is it about???? Right now to it seems as if it is all about psychology. Making the patient feel!!!!!!!!!!! Massage therapy, touch therapy, guided imagery. I dare you to suggest guided imagery to a person having a panic attack. Go ahead and push the ativan and save the guided imagery for someone else.

MICHRNTOB

MICHRNTOB

55 Posts

Not to sound harsh, but maybe you should have researched the nursing role before you started school? I keep reading complaints from students who seem to be very frustrated by a nurse's scope of practice. I say this as student who starts my ABSN program next month. I read tons of information - much of it on this site - about what nurses actually do. I did this before applying to nursing school. I also researched what courses I would have to take for my BSN. These are things anybody can do BEFORE applying to school. There is no mystery to nursing as far as I can see.

Also, perhaps a little sensitivity training wouldn't hurt you, since you used the phrase 'tard' in one of your messages. Really? That is not very professional IMO, no matter what you think of your nursing program.

Just some things to think about. I am an older student BTW, but I do remember being somewhat more indignant about things in my early 20s, so I mean no offense to you. :)

roscopeeco

roscopeeco

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Not to sound harsh, but maybe you should have researched the nursing role before you started school? I keep reading complaints from students who seem to be very frustrated by a nurse's scope of practice. I say this as student who starts my ABSN program next month. I read tons of information - much of it on this site - about what nurses actually do. I did this before applying to nursing school. I also researched what courses I would have to take for my BSN. These are things anybody can do BEFORE applying to school. There is no mystery to nursing as far as I can see.

Also, perhaps a little sensitivity training wouldn't hurt you, since you used the phrase 'tard' in one of your messages. Really? That is not very professional IMO, no matter what you think of your nursing program.

Just some things to think about. I am an older student BTW, but I do remember being somewhat more indignant about things in my early 20s, so I mean no offense to you. :)

What makes tard so offensive. It is the same reason that obesity has no become offensive and we have to change that word as well. Let me explain language to you. When a word is developed to describe a certain segment of a population it will inevitably become offense and that word gets changed to a less used word. When that less used words become mainstream in describing that segment of people it to becomes replaced. It is a never ending cycle.

Like I said before obese is being changed as we speak to a new word. Give it time and that new word will be changed as well. You just happen to have such a small mind you can't understand that about human nature. Stop with your passive aggressive approach, it looks like you are programmed like a robot.

Remember from nursing school the affirmative communication style is the best. Didn't you learn anything?

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Nursing school teaches you to pass the NCLEX.

Getting on the floor teaches you how to be a nurse.

*stirring pot

morte

morte, LPN, LVN

7,015 Posts

Tell me what is it about???? Right now to it seems as if it is all about psychology. Making the patient feel!!!!!!!!!!! Massage therapy, touch therapy, guided imagery. I dare you to suggest guided imagery to a person having a panic attack. Go ahead and push the ativan and save the guided imagery for someone else.

pushing ativan is only going to "fix" the immediate issue.....does nothing for ongoing problem....now, truely I would have been better off in PA school myself, but I don't expect nursing to change to fit MY needs. If you don't want to nurse/nurture your patients, get out and get into something else.

roscopeeco

roscopeeco

45 Posts

Nursing school teaches you to pass the NCLEX.

Getting on the floor teaches you how to be a nurse.

*stirring pot

EXACTLY. I can't wait to until the ABSN gets into school and figures that out. Forget about natural science and start learning the human sciences.

You can just say BSN program. Nobody cares that it is accelerated. If it makes you feel better to put another letter behind BSN, by all means go ahead. Egos are filled everyday in nursing. Are you going to put on your application, "I have a ABSN".

roscopeeco

roscopeeco

45 Posts

pushing ativan is only going to "fix" the immediate issue.....does nothing for ongoing problem....now, truely I would have been better off in PA school myself, but I don't expect nursing to change to fit MY needs. If you don't want to nurse/nurture your patients, get out and get into something else.

You are right. Pushing ativan is going to only fix the immediate issue. Then you refer them to a psychologist who specializes in panic disorders. Are you a specialist in panic disorders? If not, then push the ativan and let a trained professional deal with their long standing problems. Don't let nursing school convince you that you can do it all.

roscopeeco

roscopeeco

45 Posts

pushing ativan is only going to "fix" the immediate issue.....does nothing for ongoing problem....now, truely I would have been better off in PA school myself, but I don't expect nursing to change to fit MY needs. If you don't want to nurse/nurture your patients, get out and get into something else.

"nurse/nurture"???? hilarious. Precisely what is wrong. The profession needs more men. No wonder my gender gets such a bad rap in the profession. Now I know why male nurses are treated with more respect by physicians. The male nurses aren't performing massage therapy when the patient needs ativan.

MICHRNTOB

MICHRNTOB

55 Posts

Look, my first degree required that we learn theory, as well. It can seem pointless when you are itching to jump into the actual meat of your profession, but these classes are part of many bachelors programs.

They make you a more well-rounded person, and elevate your thinking beyond just the technical aspects of your job.

I do understand language usage. I actually got my first degree in journalism. I was not bragging about being a second degree student. I mentioned it because it's relevant to the discussion that I have been through school once already and so I know something about bachelors programs.

And I'm not so PC that I don't get your point about how touchy we've become as a society. However, I think your use of 'tard' is offensive in a different way than the fat vs. obese example. People used to use the word 'retarded' and now it's more common to say mentally handicapped. So, if you are saying that it's okay to call someone retarded, then I won't try to debate you on that. But, when you refer to non-handicapped people as being 'tards' you are doing something different. Mental retardation is a handicap, no matter what word you use. In your context, it sounds mean and insensitive. Can you see how this is different than the debate over word usage when describing an actual person who is mentally handicapped? If not, then I give up.

Anyway, I hope that you can find a way to enjoy becoming a nurse. If not, then I wish you luck in whatever you choose.

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