Pharmacists giving injections!?! - page 7

I went into a a local store the other day to get a presription filled. I saw a sign that said basically get your flu, tetanus, meningitis, and other vaccinations right there. My first thought was... Read More

  1. by   Racer15
    I've worked in a pharmacy for 8 years, although that is going to change in January when I start my first RN job.

    I'd trust our PIC to give me a shot before I would some nursing students, tbh! He has a crazy needle phobia and completely balked at the idea of giving injections for a long while. Both of our pharmacists tried to talk our pharmacy supervisor into letting me do the injections, as it would save them time and neither was very comfortable with the idea. Needless to say, that was shot down, lol (I was a vet tech for a few years, so even before RN school I had given MANY IM injections). If I stay on for a day or two a month after I graduate, I may be permitted to give the flu shots, but really? A deltoid injection isn't rocket science, and all of our pharmacists are trained in BLS.
  2. by   Angeljho
    Quote from netglow
    Giving injections is easy, but, I am sure pharmacists would rather be doing pharmacist stuff. This is just added irritation for them. But since a pharmacist salary is set, all the pharmacy chains are doing is just adding to their workload, and profiting hugely as flu shots cost what is it like a buck or two, but they sell for about $30. This is huge and easy profit for the grocery and pharmacy chains. Big money they pocket now that nursing has been eliminated.

    Nursing is losing ground in many areas that used to be viable for extra income. Now, it's clear nurses who used to rely on flu shot clinics for some extra cash can no longer for the most part, but at a few areas. The big chains of drug stores and grocery stores across the country no longer hire nurses to be involved. Sad for new grads looking for just something to do with themselves and earn a little money as a nurse while waiting for a real job to come along. Sadly, flu shot clinics was the only thing and now that's all but gone.
    This. When you look at it from this point of view, it does take something away from nursing. It's a scope of practice issue. While pharmacists are indeed qualified, you're taking a skill widely used by nursing and giving it to another discipline. Thus, no more flu administration positions for nurses where pharmacists work because they can give it instead without any addition to their salary. Look at the bigger picture: How does this affect all of nursing?
  3. by   wanderingby
    so... you would rather wait for a nurse to happen by? Please wear something indicating that a pharmacist is not to save your life so that none of us makes the attempt.
  4. by   NurseSpeedy
    Reading this post made me think of the last flu shot that I got. I was at Walmart to pick up some OTCs that are cheaper there than other places and I saw "flu shots now available". Since I knew that I would have to get it at some point or another and there was no line, I figured, 'why not?'. I had no idea that it was a 'special skill' taught to pharmacists after the fact so that they could give the injection. Now I kind of understand why it took him so freaking long staring at the needle, feeling the side of my arm (it was literally a few minutes) and then finally, seeming nervous, gave the injection. It was probably one of the first ones that he got suckered into doing because his pharmacy offered them now.
  5. by   Yppah
    While I am protective of nurses and their roles, I think the greatest good for the community is to allow Pharmacists to give vaccines to the public. As someone else said, Pharmacists are very valuable healthcare team members.
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  7. by   amoLucia
    Quote from wanderingby
    so... you would rather wait for a nurse to happen by? Please wear something indicating that a pharmacist is not to save your life so that none of us makes the attempt.
    Kind of reminds me of those TV announcements you see on TV airplanes only this would be "is there a nurse in the store?"

  8. by   ThatGuy71
    Seriously? A nurse is concerned that a pharmacist is giving injections? So what exactly is the concern? The lack of pharma knowledge? The Lack of training? I am fairly sure that the PharmD (oh want does that 'D' stand for????) school is a tad longer than the ADN program.....Or are you concerned about the "turf".

    As I remember- our primary concern is the wellness of our patients and community and increasing access to healthcare. Get over it, and lets thank these individuals for making our job easier!
  9. by   ThatGuy71
    So you graduate your ADN program, sit for and pass your boards. You now have a license to what? Push Meds? Hopefully your onboarding and orientation is with a competent preceptor. If not, you get a copy of a copy of a copy (never as sharp as the original).........30 years in this game and I will be the first to admit- that new RN - she is dangerous. With the prevalence of look alike / sound alike drugs, vague physician orders and the general attitude of millennial's - I think everyone is missing the bigger picture of what is good for our patients and community.

    A properly trained Pharmacist administering IM shots is no more or less dangerous than a new grad nurse.

    To take it one step further - look at the military healthcare services. Medics and corpsmen are routinely trained to administer vaccines to service members and in humanitarian missions. Training is the key.
  10. by   ThatGuy71
    That's funny- given your comment, we don't want them to either...........
  11. by   ThatGuy71
    Yes, you are.

    Did you ever hear a parasitologist complaining about a school nurse doing "lice checks" at a grade school?

    Given the tone of your post- there should be a proctologist somewhere ranting that you have no right to have your head that far in your own rectum - that is his turf.
  12. by   ThatGuy71
    Here is a shocker- it is part of the Pharmacist scope too !

    Yrs ago- we had nurses that graduated hospital based program with minimal didactic training. Right or wrong, times change and healthcare evolves.

    And if the trash guy gets to listen to your heavy breathing........well, you may be on the wrong forum
  13. by   Rose_Queen
    Quote from ThatGuy71
    Yes, you are.
    Who is you? If you utilize the quote button that appears at the bottom of the post to which you are responding, then it is possible for other members to know to which post you are referring. With 7 pages of posts, no one is going to have any idea what post you are responding to. Additionally, this thread was started nearly 5 years ago- it is quite likely that posts you are responding to are from members who do not visit AN anymore.