CGFNS/ICHP's Official decision on Visa Screening for June 2006 NLE passers - page 7
CGFNS Denies VisaScreen® Certificates for Philippine Nurses Who Passed the Compromised June 2006 Philippine Licensure Examination PHILADELPHIA, PA — FEBRUARY 14, 2007 — After careful... Read More
Feb 25, '07These issue is not about RN's vs RN's(June06)...I think this mess will not end unless all of us will move on.We've been stressed for how many months, scrutinized, depressed.We deserve to be treated as passers too, not because were part of the issue...Hope everything will be fine and lets put an end to these..God Bless
Feb 25, '07What this official fails to understand is that CGFNS cannot change their decision. They based it on the requirements of the US Government that they are under contract to.
If the nurse wishes to work in PI, then there is no issue. If they want to work in the US, then they must follow the US requirements. And the other thing is that the green card has very specific requirements and there are no other visas available.
They can try all that they want, but with this type of behavior, it will cause them to reconsider the NCLEX exam there. Remember that CGFNS issued their statement after the NCLEX exam was announced to being held there sometime in the future.
And the same centers that were at the middle of everything last summer are still open and still teaching. Wonder what they are really doing to investigate the situation? Does not look like they did one thing.
Feb 25, '07Quote from suzanne4Maybe she thinks CGFNS is like our GMA who alsways flip flops on her decisions.What this official fails to understand is that CGFNS cannot change their decision. They based it on the requirements of the US Government that they are under contract to.
Feb 26, '07She has a lot to learn, the US government does not flip flop in things like this. Maybe it is good that she is still there, and not in the US.
Feb 26, '07Quote from RepThe June 2006 NLE was marred in controversy. That cheating took place and nothing have been done by Philippines authorities to meet certain standards which US would have done if it happened in the USA. The ICHP/CGFNS said that if in the US, a retake is the only option but PRC did the unusual thing that is recomputed all the tests and excluded the sections were cheating was done.
that's why the present chairman of PRC should resign. it's her fault.
Feb 27, '07Quote from green_angelthat's why the present chairman of PRC should resign. it's her fault.
Sorry, but one person cannot take the blame for everything going on there right now. Many more were involved. And the ones that were at the center of the cheating scandal still have their centers open and are in business. Wonder how that can be when the PRC told the Board that approved NCLEX there, that things were being investigated. And this is not going to be March this week, so much for things being speedy.
And as long as they are still open and the cheating goes on, what is going to happen in your country when the NCLEX is offered? Sorry, but at this point with all of the things that I have seen in the past few weeks, with nurses from there lying to the US government, and also working illegally in the US without a care about it, what is going to happen then? Very scary thought.
Feb 27, '07http://www.manilatimes.net/national/...70228top3.html
gma approves last-ditch cgfns lobby
president arroyo on tuesday swept aside labor secretary arturo brion's advice to honor the commission on graduates of foreign nursing schools' (cgfns) requirement for a retake of the tainted 2006 nursing test and appointed a "congressional task force" to make a last-minute appeal with the us-based group.
among the moves sanctioned by the palace, is the presentation of house resolution 1539, which puentevella authored. the resolution opposes the cgfns policy as unfavorable to the 17,000 june 2006 nursing board passers.
the lawmaker described the cgfns decision "a blatant disregard for philippine internal policy." he cited a supreme court ruling upholding the board passers' right to get their licenses.
puentevella believes the cgfns might still reverse its decision if presented with new data and documents, saying its officials "might have spoken to the wrong people."
sharing an article i found on the internet. this impacts the fate of the june 2006 passers. i think some of them would like to know how government people are shaping their fate.
to those 0606 passers who do not want to know what is happening to mold their future, and those who do not want people to talk about this issue, move on to other posts/threads in this forum. this post is not for you.
i am not a 0606 passer, but i have handled students in this batch (the reason why i'm sharing this)--i want them to get their vs and move on with their lives.
basically retake is not an option at this point...the prc will only offer it if the task force fails to convince the cgfns to change its decision, and if gma orders it.
i encourage people to pray that people are enlightened to do what is right, and not use this batch for their own personal reasons.
with this task force being authorized by the highest official in the land, and supported by a house resolution...this gives a different color to this line of action.
i pray cgfns board members have the patience. there is a very easy way out for cgfns on this issue--which would be very bad for the 0606 batch.
Feb 28, '07We're so used to bad service
It matters not to us that majority of deans and veteran nurses doubt the fitness of the 17,000 or so test passers. Like Professional Regulation Commissioner Leonor Rosero, we insist on our wrongs and expect others to accept. Rosero was set to leave for the US yesterday to appeal the blacklist by the Commission on Graduates of Foreign Nursing Schools of passers seeking work in America. Yet, CGFNS head Barbara Nichols already told her to not waste time appealing because they want US job applicants to retake Tests 3 and 5 that were marred by leakage. We can't get into our thick skulls that it's only us who believe that all the passers, regardless of who cheated, can attain local as well as US licenses as birthright. The whole world is persecuting us, so we yell our voices hoarse for justice. Meantime, we dilly-dally in prosecuting the two examiners who leaked questionnaires and 11 deans and reviewers who coaxed them into it. We even let Rosero stay in office and junket to America, when she should be indicted as an accessory for attempting to whitewash the misdeed.
We can read the whole article by clicking the link below:
Feb 28, '07What your government is failing to understand is that CGFNS operates under the direct rulings and requirements of the US State Dept that they are under contract to. They are not permitted to make any changes to items that deal directly with US Immigration. It is only the US Federal Government that can make the changes, and they are not going to for the safety of the population of the United States.
Their priority is to the citizens of the US, not to your country or any other. If the nurse wishes to work in the US, then they need to meet the requirements that are required for the US.
Perhaps the people that are trying to force the hand of the US should try this same tactic with the review centers that are still open that were at the center of the cheating, "They are being investigated". Yeah, right and things go on as usual.
For the money that they are going to waste on flying over here when CGFNS has told them not to come could have fed and clothed quite a few people. Sorry, but they are not thinking clearly or they would not permit all of the things that are going on there now.
Feb 28, '07Quote from lawrence01I totally agree w/ the sentiments of the author of that Opinion column. In fact this has been in the back of everyone's mind ever since the peak of the scandal when Rosero was suspiciously too keen on a no re-take stand even though at that time majority of officials wanted a re-take. She then was able to muster the support of the nursing examiners w/c predictively doesn't want a re-take and then some politicians then got in the mix and add in a lawyer (former politician) to support her stand as well.We’re so used to bad service
It matters not to us that majority of deans and veteran nurses doubt the fitness of the 17,000 or so test passers. Like Professional Regulation Commissioner Leonor Rosero, we insist on our wrongs and expect others to accept. Rosero was set to leave for the US yesterday to appeal the blacklist by the Commission on Graduates of Foreign Nursing Schools of passers seeking work in America. Yet, CGFNS head Barbara Nichols already told her to not waste time appealing because they want US job applicants to retake Tests 3 and 5 that were marred by leakage. We can’t get into our thick skulls that it’s only us who believe that all the passers, regardless of who cheated, can attain local as well as US licenses as birthright. The whole world is persecuting us, so we yell our voices hoarse for justice. Meantime, we dilly-dally in prosecuting the two examiners who leaked questionnaires and 11 deans and reviewers who coaxed them into it. We even let Rosero stay in office and junket to America, when she should be indicted as an accessory for attempting to whitewash the misdeed.
We can read the whole article by clicking the link below:
Now that the CGFNS has officially gave their final decision, the said lawyer is no where to be found maybe because being a lawyer he probably now knows that it is now futile and a good numer of examiners now wants to re-take voluntarily BUT again Rosero stands firm and this is even after CGFNS posted a specific communication to her on their website not to come anymore to Philadelphia as it is futile and that they will not and cannot change their decision.
It gives everyone an impression as to what is it to her? Why is she trying too hard for comfort? This situation gives everyone following her moves, including the author of the said editorial wondering of her moves. It does make everyone wonder on her true reasons and motives. She should be investigated as suggested by the Opinion Columnist.
Also, CGFNS' lawyer disclosed to Sec. Brion that CGFNS has not received any official communication from anyone or group who plans to go to CGFNS' HQ in PA for the appeal. I don't think it is proper to just go to any body's backyard w/o having a proper appointment or a request to grant them an audience. Hope they do not expect CGFNS CEO Ms. Barbara Nichols or any CGFNS official to be on the CGFNS HQ at all times and be ready to receive them at any given time.Last edit by lawrence01 on Feb 28, '07
Feb 28, '07Every single one of them needs to be investigated in a timely fashion and not even permitted to leave the country until it is completed. Or it will be handled the same way that they have been doing with everything else.
They can do as they please there, but when it comes to patients' lives in the US, they need to keep out of it. Or spend their time going after the schools that are taking huge sums of money but are not providing any training.
Sorry, but when a nurse cannot spike an IV bag or bottle when they get here, or draw up and give an injection; they were not trained as nurses and should not be permitted to use that title. Not sure what they did when they were in school and the instructors were supposed to be teaching.
Feb 28, '07At first, I was adamant not to take the exam again after all the brouhaha! I did not cheat and it's like telling me, I cheated and it hurts my pride. But however long we argued, it will just come back to haunt us again for the rest of our lives, so better to retake the test 3 and 5 and be done with it. If we passed it the first time, we will pass it again the second time. Precious time have been wasted. We cannot move on, however or whatever arguments we laid to them, they will never understand the agony we went through even if we are not guilty of the crime. Besides, what is there to fear for retake when they will not revoke our license and they will provide free review centers for us and free test. They have soften the blows and I salute Mrs. Rosero of PRC and Mrs. Nathanielz of PNA for their continuous support for the June Batch 2006. Maraming-Maraming Salamat Po! We truly appreciate your every effort in boosting our morale. :bowingpurHope that you will be made models to other government agencies and not just think of what is good for the country and what they can get from us NURSES but also THINK OF THE WELFARE of every citizens of this country.
Feb 28, '07Quote from suzanne4Memorizing the nursing books so they can pass the NLE.Sorry, but when a nurse cannot spike an IV bag or bottle when they get here, or draw up and give an injection; they were not trained as nurses and should not be permitted to use that title. Not sure what they did when they were in school and the instructors were supposed to be teaching.Last edit by Rep on Feb 28, '07