What is the biggest frustration for nursing students? - page 5
Just curious as nursing instructors what do find nursing students complain most about or find most challenging. Thanks.... Read More
Jul 6, '07Occupation: Associate Professor, department chair Specialty: 36 year(s) of experience in critical care ; Joined: Dec '01; Posts: 24; Likes: 1Hi,
You make very valid points that need to be reinforced to instructors. You have touched on several issues that cause students frustration. These are issues that students seem to respond about on facultly evaluations.
Jul 27, '07Occupation: ICN, PICU, ER Specialty: 12 year(s) of experience in pediatric, neonatal, ER/trauma, camp ; Joined: Dec '06; Posts: 50; Likes: 2I'm picking up my first assignment as a clinical instructor next month. I am excited as I enjoy teaching.
When I was in nursing school over 12 yrs ago I had one really bad clinical instructor and one so-so, the rest were pretty good. The so-so instructor was critical care. She docked me a letter grade because my white leather shoes were scuffed. She totally lost my respect after that.
The terrible instructor was during a med-surg rotation. I had heard through the grapevine that she always picked one student per rotation and picked on them. I was that student. Her tone was always condescening to me, she would hold me accountable for things she wouldn't hold the rest of the group up for, if I didn't understand something she would berate me and make me feel stupid. One time one of my patients didn't go for a procedure that had been planned. I found this out when I arrived to the floor that morning. When my instructor asked me about the procedure I told her that the patient never received it. She of course thought I was stupid, huffily grabbed the chart to prove me wrong, but of course I wasn't, she then threw the chart down and mumbled "well she was suppose to have it" and walked off. This lovely woman then proceeded to fail me. I talked to the advisor about it but to no avail - but while I was there I found out I wasn't the first person this happened to or the first to complain. Years later I heard she was fired for too many complaints. Yeah!
Another big worthless task - . No need to practice writing 10 page care plans. "Good nurses don't really need them" - shhh, it's a secret. Many units have gotten away from "writing them" by providing fill in the blank pre-written forms. Most advanced hospitals have them computerized and you just choose what applies. Anyway, once they are filled out, they are never looked at again - at least for guidance on care.
I could add more but it's late...maybe later.
Jul 30, '07Joined: Nov '04; Posts: 635; Likes: 197Quote from HSMOMHSMOM,I had a horrible day today. I had my last check-off for the summer and it happened to be on Medication Administration. I passed the check off, but I would like to ask anyone's opinion about the way the instructor treated me. First of all, we were given 30 minutes for two students to correct a MAR, prepare 9 medications including the med math, an ampule of Demoral and Insulin, give the medications, and mark it off on the MAR...that was fine, I studied a lot. My instructor, who is quite a bit younger than I am, is not ever what I would call overly friendly, but today she was an exceptional treat. These checks are very important. We only have two chances to pass, then we're out of the program. Because the previous students were running late, it meant we were all running late. When it was my turn to fix the meds, the kept looking at the clock, rolling her eyes, huffing, etc. It made me very, very nervous. Not that I wasn't a wreck already....but then, after only drawing an ampule one time before, I'm trying to do this without touching the sides, etc. and the whole time she's huffing, making comments under her break...now, I'm doing this check off with three of my peers watching and listening. I was looking for an insulin syringe...there was a plastic box of mixed up syringes and of course I couldn't find the one with UNITS on it and she says, "What ARE YOU DOING??!" I almost burst into tears, but I was able to maintain professionalism...she did pass me; however, I have never been so embarrassed and humiliated...on the one hand, I realize her job is to make sure we know what we're doing, but I felt like she was very unprofessional for huffing, rolling her eyes, making smart comments, etc. while I was trying to pass a very difficult check off....what do you guys think?
Oh dear, I can so relate. I can honestly say that the attitudes of instructors was my main problem in nursing school, which is why I am finishing up at Excelsior. I think in a previous post you said an instructor was actually fired for her attitude. This would have never happened in the school I was in. The same behavior would have been praised for being "rigorous" or some such nonsense. There is so much psychological terrorism in nursing school. I just don't get it. The only reasons I can see is the history of nursing. Nurses have always been treated badly, and I am just hoping I can find a situation where this kind of thing doesn't exist, it's so destructive. I was telling my tales of woe to my GP, who told me this joke. I won't tell the whole thing, other than the punch line - the found an unidentified dead woman and knew it was a nurse because "her stomach was empty, her bladder full, and her rear end was all chewed up." Ug. There are so many things love about nursing - most of all, one doesn't have to have any doubts about it being a meaningful job. One can make such a difference in people's lives by just being a kind, wonderful person to somebody who is sick. Being in the hospital is such a drag, nurses can make it so much more bearable. Thanks for your input!
Aug 2, '07Occupation: ER Staff Nurse Specialty: 6+ year(s) of experience in ER/EHR Trainer ; From: US ; Joined: Mar '07; Posts: 1,115; Likes: 1,674As an older nurse who recently graduated and currently working in ER, I can say my biggest pet peeve were long winded questons on test by professors who couldn't explain their own lecture content. I found it completely disturbing that anyone dare lecture or grade on content matter they themselves did not understand. Mind you, most of our professors still maintained per diem positions in local hospitals. I had no problem questioning testing content or comments if I had reasons for making those selections(especially backed up by literature) I came from a technology background-just because I said so, or those were the answers in the question bank didnot work for me! Like everyone else I did not like, but found they were very useful for following nursing process and making you think about disease process. I also felt that due to my life experience I was not intimidated by naked bodies, or skills that needed to be performed. I feel that the younger students truly struggled with skills and criticism by the professors. Older students who had not really worked in leadership positions also suffered. Eventually, I would like to be a nursing professor. I hope to follow my own advice someday. Also, for those instructors that were doctors from India or the Phillipines and became nurses-DO NOT EXPECT NURSING STUDENTS TO DIAGNOSE! There was no arguing with them regarding testing and exams. If they want to be doctors, pass the licensing for that-stay out of nursing.
Lots of Love to all, Still need lots of nurses!