Nursing is pathetic...

  1. It's to bad you feel this way I work in the E.R.and am constantly exposed to hiv, hepatitis,and a host of other diseases you can protect yourself. Why did you really go into nursing ws it for the money? If it was for that then you missed the whole point of what a nurse is. It was never meant to be anything more than the giving care to those in needof your services if you allow yourself to feel all these negative feeling it's time for a vacation from nursing and try something else for a while or have you considered trying a new area that may have sparked some interest. It might be something to think about?


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  3. by   nursedude

    That about sums it up for me... I am a 34 year old guy and live in Pittsburgh Pa. Have been an RN for 10years. I have done the following in nursing: Cardiotharacic ICU, ER,UR, Case Management...

    THe problems with nursing I have found:
    1) Poor compensation- I have friends that are Registered Plumbers and registered electricians, Certified computer specialists etc. All of them make twice as much $$$ as I do- none of them have a college degree. None of them are exposed to HIV, TB, Hepatitis on a daily basis.
    2) You can't really practice nursing on your own even though you are licensed- See above- The plumber, the electrician and the computer guy all work full time jobs and also do business on the side from home and make money... Did you ever practice nursing on the side? its called illegal...
    3) Nurses are on the bottom of the food chain...Doctors, PA's, CRNP's, Administrators all look down on nurses- at least here in Pittsburgh they do. Nurses here are just another load on the revenue generated by hospitals...
  4. by   nurse lala
    I do not think it is bad to be able to indentify the short-comings of being a nurse.
    I agree that other professions that require less education have less risk involved and more income.
    As a psych nurse, I have a potentially dangerous, albeit exciting vocation. My husband has a great job, so I can afford low pay in order to enjoy my chosen (low pay ) profession.
    I am working with a special sub-set of our society: veterans. For the most part, they are homeless, drug addicted and poorly motivated. I get burned out too. Then I will encounter a patient that I can really help-make a long term difference in his life. That's why I became a Nurse. To make a difference.
    It's okay to be burned out. We need the lows to appreciate the highs.
  5. by   mirn
    I agree with both of the previous posts. I think its ok to identify the drawbacks of nursing, but almost every job has those. For me, the satisfaction comes from the knowledge that I make a difference in people's lives, even if they are small ones, or short-term ones. This is worth more than gold to me...what keeps me going. As frustrating as these times are for nurses, I truly cannot imagine doing anything else.
  6. by   3651bht
    Dear Nursedude,
    Sounds like your plumber and electrician friends are working alot of hours. Ever heared of part time work as a nurse in a nursing home, as a consultant. Nurses can work independently you just have to find the right area. If you find the perfect job would you please e-mail me so I can go with you?
  7. by   katz rn
    Dear Nursedude,

    Sorry you feel that way. Maybe it is time that you look away from nursing for awhile. I too have been an RN for a long period of time (11 yrs). I've also done a variety of jobs that have kept me challenged. I am at a crossroads in my career right now, that I need yet another change. They are right, there are areas where nurses can work independently, check them out. Your attitiude towards nursing now will only reflect on the patients that you interact with. Don't let that happen, the patients after all are what we are all about.
  8. by   suellen e.
    Dear ND,
    I too am one of those dedicated nurses - was a nurse's aid at age 18, a RN by age 21. Now I am 45 and will be graduating as a FNP with a master's degree in May. Over the years, I certainly have gotten burned out and the best thing I ever did was take breaks from nursing. You owe it to yourself. It's demands are as rigorous as it's rewards are outrageous. Go be a fisherman on a tuna boat for Play an instrument. I have done all over the years, and find that my heart is still in nursing. There is nothing I would rather be. I wish you the satisfaction, joy and commitment I have found in being a nurse.
  9. by   nursedude
    You all make me laugh...

    The question was: would you recommend nursing as a career?

    Not, are you burned out?

    I meerly replied with my opinions and that is:Nursing is a pathetic career.

    I did not say anything about: Would you recomend nursing as a vocation?

    My best guess: Nursing as a profession/career will not exist much longer. Instead, RNs will be replaced (as they already are) by less skilled/cheaper EMT'S PARAMEDICS AND NURSE AIDES...
  10. by   mirn
    If we are "pathetic" , "ignorant" and "make you laugh" , perhaps it is time you find others with whom to share your opinions and let us continue with our camaraderie...

    I think you missed our point that we would recommend nursing as a career IF you are dedicated to patients and not dedicated to chasing the almighty big dollar.

    I don't know where nursedude works (geographically), but where I come from, nurses are quite well-paid...upwards of $25-$30 per hr. in most areas, and we are experiencing a shortage, which means large sign on bonuses for many new employees.
  11. by   Nursing Slug
    What's this about "feeling good about helping people". The "boss" makes sure that's not about to happen! There is little 'on the job satisfaction'. The workload is tremendous, one nurse is pushed to the physical and mental limits just to perform the paperwork and basics, to maintain their liscense from being revoked. The days of sitting down and consoling a patient are over.... it's "Open wide, I'm shovin' the pills down the throat... without even breakin' my flyin' stride"~~~~> Gotta get back to the paperwork, sign off a few thousand treatments that I can't possibly perform due to ~~~> WORK OVERLOAD. PS: Do you think nurses get "Burned out" because they "enjoy" or have "fun" at their jobs?
  12. by   nursedude

    So you mean to tell me some hospital is paying you $25 or $30 bucks an hour? Boy, have you got them fooled. Congrats MIRN...

    As far as where I live- I'm from western Pa. Allegheny General Hospital Just went bankrupt for 1.5 BILLION dollars, ten years ago, AGH was the top revenue producing hospital in the nation. Since filing for bankruptcy, ALL employees at AGH have taken substantial pay cuts, doctors have lost thier practices and also gone bankrupt. The University of Pittsburgh Health system- originally consisting of 6 hospitals has taken advantage of the market- They started thier own HMO and bought up most other area hospital- guess what? They looked at AGH's demise and many of thier employees have taken cuts too!!!

    And guess what else? AGH went bankrupt because of a few greedy administrators, they were getting paid tons of money while the backs of the hospital's employees were breaking.(ie: RN's) Now they have all taken pay cuts to keep thier jobs. Theres also much scuttlebut about the start of a nursing union. (If nursing was so good, why would nurses need a union?)

    Personally, 10 years ago I never would have imagined that this could have happened. I bet that we all will see this more and more. I bet MIRN that you'll see this happen sooner or later in your area too.

    By the way mirn, I would say that the average base pay for an RN in the pittsburgh area is anywhere from $14 - $21 an hour- I don't see this going up here-in fact I'd say its going to go down.

    No wonder why Hillary Clinton said back in 1992 "...Nurses are undereducated and overpaid ..." I'd bet that the hospital administrators were you work think that RN's are overpaid. Why aren't they paying you more? I mean for crying out loud, we as nurses sometimes hold our patients lives in our hands- administering blood, life threatening medications etc for a measly $25 dollars an hour, come on MIRN I think you are cutting the profession of nursing off at the knees.

    Again, the purpose of this forum was for us to post our opinions. I posted my opinions,and by doing so I seem to have gotten a large response from nurses who say that" when they get burned out..." For crying out loud! If nursing were so good, why are all nurses burned out so frequently????

    I believe that because I am part of this profession that the most important job I have as a nurse is that of patient advocate- the hospitals no longer allow us (nurses) to do that job and this is where I believe that the value of being a nurse really lies..

    [This message has been edited by nursedude (edited September 29, 1999).]
  13. by   nursedude
    Oh, by the way mirn,
    If nursing were "such a great career", why would there be a nursing shortage???

    For instance, right now there is a shortage of help in the computer industry. Theres a shortage there because the computer industry is relatively new. Nursing on the other hand is ancient and there are millions of nurses. Yet, for some unknown reason(maybe that nursing is a pathetic career) there is a shortage...

    I think mirn that your previous post about there being a shortage speaks volumes about what kind of career nursing really is- in otherwords- you have just proved my point...

    So lets see, mirn...
    1 Nurses get burned out frequently.
    2 Theres a shortage of nurses.
    3 They can't pay people enough to become nurses.

    Sounds like a lovely career to me!
  14. by   nursedude

    As far as the number of job vacancies, my guess is that it is because the job is a challenge, the elderly can be frustrating at times, some nursing homes pay is poorer than others, and the working conditions vary from place to place as well. It can be a thankless job, ...

    We are faced as all hospitals with down sizing our FTE's.

    Our experience has been frustrating. We are feeling a loss of control over care and feeling "lost" trying to remember crucial details.

    Striking nurses in Michigan bring you to equal pay with other area nurses, as laughable. I hope that you get your salary increase. The second thing that I noticed was the mention of Bay City and Detroit hospitals are experiencing layoffs and salary decreases. AGAIN, IF IT WERE SO GOOD-WHY A UNION?

    I subsequently went into a deeper depression
    became suicidal and finally entered a treatment center by my own choice. I was appalled at the number of nurses who were in-patients at this facility....both for substance abuse and depression....This is a serious and rampant problem in our profession and it is being "swept under the rug".
    One cannot apply to be a clerk in a convience store without submitting to a drug screen, yet NO hospital I have worked in for 23 years has ever demanded this of their nurses. Why? I personally believe it's because there would not be enough nurses drug-free to satisfy their staffing needs.

    Years ago, I took care of a nurse who respiratory arrested at the nurses station after shooting up 300mg Demerol.

    Nursing is not all Florence Nightengale. It's hard, stressful, heart wrenching work.

    you definitely don't get paid what you are worth

    I fight for everything else in the nursing profession, including my patients, and now I have to fight for my money. I came home physically ill and exhausted. I like my job and don't want to quit. The administrators favorite words are " I'll get back to you about it" "we're working on it" etc. I ended up writing anonymously to wage and hour as I am afraid of any recourse. Is there anything else we can do? This doesn't only happen to me but it seems to be happening the most to those of us who work weird or extra hours. Also, are we supposed to be paid for our lunch because we can't leave and frequently get called from our lunches for patient care.

    Most nurses never thought that there would be reductions in workforce or atrition of positions, which would lead to working short staff, and sometimes unsafe conditions for delivering patient care.

    What saddens me most about nursing in Britain today is that nursing seems to have lost the respect of the public in general, our medical colleaques and the government in particular. For example, everybody but everybody is getting extra pay for working over the millenium New Year holiday or else time off.
    In the National Health Service all leave has been banned and we'll be lucky if we get our basic special duty payments.

    No wonder there are recruitment problems.

    I too love my work, I just hate my job sometimes. And, yes, we don't make nearly what we should for what we have to know. As a critical care nurse with 14+ yrs experience I make squat

    I'm a relatively new nurse (3 years), and I'm having regrets about being in nursing. Why nursing? I can't give a easy reply. I work rotating shifts, so my sleep is off. When I am off, I'm too tired to actually do something (except those essential things like Laundry). And I'm constantly thinking of work: will I float today, will we work short, what will I muck up this time. Why nursing? I have no clue.

    I remember when hospitals were run by Health Care people not Big Business where the bottom line is FAR more important than the health of the patient. This is THE single reason that I want to get out of a profession that I love. I cannot stand to see others hurt or hurting because our society, in the US, has decided to turn its back on what really matters. Your health.

    It is too bad that our society views us still to this day as only assistants

    I find that there is less and less peer support possibly due to budget restraints.

    I also have a daughter who has decided NOT to be a nurse. Why? She has said to family and friends that nurses work too hard and they don't make a great deal of money.

    The "healthcare community" (big busines "managed care") doesn't give a hoot about us

    Most nurses are too competitive and do not stand up for their peers. We are a profession that eats our young and we need to change that but I do not know how that will ever be accomplished.

    our D.O.N. stated "if your not happy, quit, nurses are a dime a dozen."

    $15 per day is all we get for being "on call" for 12 hours (for some nurses this will not cover the expense of an "on call" babysitter)

    I've always felt that the conditions would have to be truly egregious in order for me to strike, but I think that the time might just be approachin'...
    The most unsettling thing I have seen at a hospital that I was formerly employed at is that chief exec officers for nursing are NON nurses. This is grave.
    It is time for our hospital based colleagues to be articulate--not witchy or whiny--about conditions that lead them to strike so that we can all have a voice for nursing.