If there were such a class as a "Nurse Self-Defense" class, would you take it?
A "Nurse Self-Defense" class teaches a nurse how to deal with physically violent patients basically. But it does have other characteristics like it will teach how to do minimum damage (preferably no damage) to the patient in the process of defending one self. The techniqes being taught are independent of the size of the person, so basically a 4 foot 10 nurse can bring down a 6 ft 10 person with minimum damage to both the patient and the nurse.
Probably it will involve lots of holds, locks, and maybe some thorwing techniques from different martial arts. Oh yes, lots of training on how to get out of the way when you see a punch or whatever comming. Maybe even learn how to use some unobstrusive weapon like kubotan (a little 6 inch or so stick you can carry on your keychain).
Basically it has to be something very practical that one can learn to use in a hurry. The class has to be design with the nurses in mind just like classes design specifically design for police officers in term of use of force.
Under stress, you might not be as accurate in finding those pressure points especially if the patient you're trying to control is moving around a lot and maybe trying his best to evade you.
Come to think of it, there are stuff in CDT that are not pressure points, they are just huge area of our body where there are lots of surface nerves like under our upper arms, behind the things, the side of our body, these large areas can be "grabbed" in such a way that can cause extreme pain. Also in practice, people are taught to go to a different area or pressure point if one does not work. But under real pressure, who knows, maybe nothing works and it does not matter what system you are trained under.
This is under the scenerio where one is being attacked by a patient.
In the scenerio where one is trying to control a patient physically (absolute last resort), you are going to go with whatever the take down procedure the institution has.
I don't advocate Krav Maga as the system to use in a patient care setting but in our "lone nurse at night" with potential exposure to outside threats, I'm glad I know it :)
Yea, outside thread, I can see Krav Maga is useful. I wonder if one can modify Karv Maga to fit the nursing requirement...
Under stress, you might not be as accurate in finding those pressure points especially if the patient you're trying to control is moving around a lot and maybe trying his best to evade you.
Come to think of it, there are stuff in CDT that are not pressure points, they are just huge area of our body where there are lots of surface nerves like under our upper arms, behind the things, the side of our body, these large areas can be "grabbed" in such a way that can cause extreme pain. Also in practice, people are taught to go to a different area or pressure point if one does not work. But under real pressure, who knows, maybe nothing works and it does not matter what system you are trained under.
This is under the scenerio where one is being attacked by a patient.
In the scenerio where one is trying to control a patient physically (absolute last resort), you are going to go with whatever the take down procedure the institution has.
I don't advocate Krav Maga as the system to use in a patient care setting but in our "lone nurse at night" with potential exposure to outside threats, I'm glad I know it :)
Yea, outside thread, I can see Krav Maga is useful. I wonder if one can modify Karv Maga to fit the nursing requirement...
I think self defense classes for nurses is a great idea the only problem i see is if a patient hits me or a extremely violent person that patient is gonna end up alot worse then they were before.
But yes nurses should take self defense classes they should prepare for the worst thats pretty sad though a nurse having to take a self defense class just for trying to do thier job by helping a patient.
I think self defense classes for nurses is a great idea the only problem i see is if a patient hits me or a extremely violent person that patient is gonna end up alot worse then they were before.
But yes nurses should take self defense classes they should prepare for the worst thats pretty sad though a nurse having to take a self defense class just for trying to do thier job by helping a patient.
Yea, that is a real problem with most self-defense class. That is why it would be nice if there are something specific for the nursing profession. A few replies on this thread seemed to indicate some organization do have something for nursing, too bad it is not universal.
It is a sad commentary on the culture we live in where people in the nursing profession are thinking about self defense. Actually not just nursing, just people in the health-care in general.
Voted NO. In the ICU, we sometimes get combative, young, overdose patients. Basically, if they want out - I'm not putting myself in jeopardy by standing in their way. I don't want the hospital to think that because I take a class like that, that I will risk myself to take someone down. All I need to know is the number for SECURITY. They are always on our unit in a flash if we call them.
Voted NO. In the ICU, we sometimes get combative, young, overdose patients. Basically, if they want out - I'm not putting myself in jeopardy by standing in their way. I don't want the hospital to think that because I take a class like that, that I will risk myself to take someone down. All I need to know is the number for SECURITY. They are always on our unit in a flash if we call them.
I reviewed the responses from the Self defense threads that have been written since my last response. It seems everyone has one thing that is a sure priority. Safety...of both the patient and themselves. There is no one method to always use to prevent injury, every situation is different, and will require different action. I would be like New Nurse, even with the CPI training, if the patient wanted to leave, and they were violent, I move on over. Most of CPI is using team work, and the leader is the person with the best relationship with the patient.
I work in a Maximum Security Forensic Mental Health Facility. We have what is called PMAB-Prevention & Management of Assaultive Behavior. There are lots of techniques for protecting yourself; We are required to take the all day course every year. Our patients are Mentally Disordered Offenders, Not able to stand trial (R/T insanity), and Sexually Violent Predators. Tey're murderers, thieves, burglars, rapists, Child molesters, Sadists. You name it, We've got it........Good luck with your Nurskido...Di
I'm a registered Nurse and a Karate Instructor. Yes i believe everyone should be able to defend themselves within reason either in a work environment or not.
I am not paid to be physically abused, I'm paid to nurse patients. That is my honest opinion.
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This is under the scenerio where one is being attacked by a patient.
In the scenerio where one is trying to control a patient physically (absolute last resort), you are going to go with whatever the take down procedure the institution has.
Yea, outside thread, I can see Krav Maga is useful. I wonder if one can modify Karv Maga to fit the nursing requirement...-Dan