Published Jul 21, 2004
I work in a hospital that is supposedly in a budget crisis, arent they all? Last month I took 9 days vacation and when I got back to work I wrote in the book for 40 hours vacation pay. I only received 36 hours vacation pay, yes I work 12 hour shifts but usually work 4 a week. Well, that was only 4 hours difference but it is the principle of it that bothered me. Two weeks ago we had a nurse hurt her back and a couple call in sick so I picked up extra time and worked about 74 hours that week. The following week which was also in the same pay period I was sick and missed a 12 hour shift. I put this is in the exception book and was told that I had worked more than full time hours and they dont give you sick time on top of that!!! We use PTO and I have 190 hours of accrued time, but my nurse manager has decided that I was paid "enough." Do any of you have similar policies??
Take it to HR and ask them for clarification. Managers can't decide you've been "paid enough" unless they have some sort of backing. It could be she is just clumsily stated what is the hospital policy.
Tweety, BSN, RN
We get vacation pay only for our normal scheduled week. If we are hired and in the system as 3 12-hour shifts, then we can only get 36 hours vacation, regardless of our what our average work week is. But really, from a nurse satisfaction standpoint, why bicker over four hours, she should just give it to you.
In my hospital 12-hr shift employees are consider full-time if they work 3 shifts/week (72-hrs/pp) and can only receive a max of 36 hours of PTO a week. Managers are not allowed to give more according to our pay practices. You might want to check with HR but I'm guessing your hospital has the same pay practice.
If you want to get the correct information you might want to go to the HR Dept. The next stop is the Labor Board. I had a dispute about attending job related training and showing up for a shift that they decided to cancel once I arrived. This all happened in January. The company refused to pay me (because the person in charge of payroll was ignorant as to the labor laws). So I put in a formal complaint to the labor board. It was all settled in an informal dispute conference where the company agreed to pay me after they were informed by the labor board that I was entitled to 4 hours of pay just for showing up for the job and the 2 hours for attending mandatory job training at the company. This was the first time a company had tried to rip me off in 27 years. My advice to you is not to provide services to a company that is trying to cheat you out of your pay. I just won my request for wage came yesterday. Took 7 months to get my money out of these people. The way the labor laws work is very complicated. I am lucky I got anything at all. These companys are offering anywhere from $500 - $2,000.00 to recruit nurses, then once they get them they treat them so bad that they dont stay. I dont get it. I just dont get it. Let me know how your situation turns out. You shouldnt have to go through all of this to get something you worked so hard to earn.
BittyBabyGrower, MSN, RN
Our policy is the same as Gomers. But the sick time...we can get paid even if we work extra time, unless we call off on the extra time day.
barefootlady, ADN, RN
I agree that you are probably only paid on a 36 hours basis for vacation time since 12 hour shift are the norm on your unit. I would check with HR to make sure. I would check on the sick time issue too. BUT, more importantly, remember the managers attitude when picking up shifts for overtime. Nothing makes nurses feel so unimportant as doing a "favor" for the boss and having a uncaring remark made afterwards. These are lessons each of us learn the hard way. Good luck on the pay issue.
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