Our Death-Denying Society (Revisited) - page 4

Several high-profile instances of brain death have entered the public's awareness in recent weeks, including the painstakingly tragic demise of 13-year-old student Jahi McMath. Hence, now is the time... Read More

  1. by   pinkiepieRN
    In Maryland, we have a MOLST that does carry over to the hospital upon transfer. It's a bit more extensive than a DNR - including things like artificial fluids and blood products.
  2. by   ProfRN4
    Quote from Semolina
    think of how many bodies are pulled out of the East and Hudson Rivers. It's a common thing to see in a densely populated area. Always sad, but not shocking if you've lived here a while. It's VERY, VERY, VERY unlikely that someone else had similar clothing, but not impossible.

    I would not criticize any family member for wanting DNA evidence in a situation like this -- I don't know if DNA testing is always done, but I have heard of it in similar cases. I can't imagine expecting a family to accept ID based exclusively on clothing. It's not explicitly stated, but the NYT story suggests that DNA testing was at the behest of the police -- not something the family insisted on.

    Here's the Daily News story:

    Avonte Oquendo€™s family cling to hope, await DNA tests as cops find second arm in Queens - NY Daily News

    And from the NYT:

    thanks for the links!

    I completely understand what you are saying. I'd want proof too. Some parents never get any sort of proof/evidence, this leaving them with absolutely no closure. It's not the ending they want, especially since it may be difficult to determine cause of death. I know I'd make a terrible lawyer, judge (or even a juror, lol), but I feel like that if it looks like, smells like and talks like a duck, then it is most likely not a pelican. Fortunately, the technology exists that they can trace the DNA back to him (assuming it is him).

    And yes, there are many many body parts and other things floating around these parts (sadly). I will reiterate: I HOPE it doesn't turn into a similar situation as this, and that this "death-denying phenomenon" is not becoming a trend.
  3. by   Princess Bubblegum
    Quote from pinkiepieRN
    What is NODA?
    Sorry I'm totally jumping in here. I love this program and will take any opportunity I can to sing its praises. NODA = No One Dies Alone. Volunteers of all backgrounds, medical or otherwise, sit vigil with patients who don't have loved ones nearby. It sounds simple enough, but it means so much.

    This page has a really beautiful article written by the RN who started the program:

    No One Dies Alone
  4. by   sandyfeet
    I was shocked to discover a few months ago how inexperienced my co-workers were with death. One had never seen a dead body prior to working in the ED. None had been to funerals as a child. These are people who purposefully work in healthcare, and get upset about CPR on a 90-year-old, or revoking a DNR. If my co-workers are evolving and processing their beliefs as they actively work with dying people, I can only imagine how difficult it is for the general public to understand and make choices about something they have been shielded from their entire lives.