NP making six figures?

Nicunurse_RN · Apr 23, 2004

I think i know who you are talking about

cgfnp · May 12, 2004

This is an aside to this, but still relevant. In my neck of the woods, the cardiac doctors and cardiovascular surgeons are using ADN-RN's to do the above (NOT NP's). They make rounds for the doctors on the floor, fill in the progress note (the doctor signs it once they complete it), write orders (as "VO"), and these "nurse clinicians" (as they are called) are the ones the nurses call for orders or any changes in the patients (NOT the doctors). Scary, huh? :uhoh21:

Yikes...............

lalaxton · May 12, 2004

cfgnp,

I've seen this as well, I don't think these RN's realize what the risk is if they go outside their scope of practice. I know of one RN who was working this way and finally went back to graduate school for her NP when she figured how close she could be to losing her license!

VickyRN, MSN, DNP, RN · May 12, 2004

cfgnp,
I've seen this as well, I don't think these RN's realize what the risk is if they go outside their scope of practice. I know of one RN who was working this way and finally went back to graduate school for her NP when she figured how close she could be to losing her license!

What's even more disturbing is the risk to YOUR license as an RN working on the unit when one of these "Nurse Clinicians" barks an order to you. It's written as a "VO" but you know he/ she has had no immediate contact with the physician.

cgfnp · May 12, 2004

What's even more disturbing is the risk to YOUR license as an RN working on the unit when one of these "Nurse Clinicians" barks an order to you. It's written as a "VO" but you know he/ she has had no immediate contact with the physician.

Exactly. I'd tell them to kiss my orifice. Just asking you to risk your license by following an order a different RN took tells you how much they value you. They're willing to risk your career to save a few bucks. I'm having a hard time even grasping that that is going on...:uhoh21:

Ari RN, BSN, RN · May 30, 2004

Here in NYC, RN's with no experience get a starting salary of $60,000. I am shocked that NP's start at $70,000. I thought they got paid over $100,000. :uhoh3:

youngRNstudent · Jun 9, 2004

RN's only need a minimum of an ASN, NP's need an MSN, You do the tuition math. I'm only speaking to those that feel becoming a NP will "guarantee" them a higher salary, if you're still doing work as a staff nurse, your NP title won't guarantee you anything but more student loans to repay. (Again that's only in certain areas)... while RN's are in high demand, there is NOT necessarrily a high demand for mid level practioner's. For example, try monster.com, select all states...... type in nuser- over 5,000 jobs across the country. Then type in nurse practioner- 18 jobs across the country.... doesnt take a brain suregeon to see there is not a high demand for that title.

In California most hospitals will pay your FULL tuition (or at least contribute over 50%) to get your MSN

zrmorgan · Jul 14, 2004

go to crna school....you will easily make six figs, and be an NP in most states.

lalaxton · Jul 16, 2004

Was not aware that CRNA's were also NP's. Hopefully you mean they have a similar scope of practice and not that they can call themselves one or the other. I don't think with my FNP certification I could call myself a CRNA, in any state.

zrmorgan · Jul 17, 2004

Was not aware that CRNA's were also NP's. Hopefully you mean they have a similar scope of practice and not that they can call themselves one or the other. I don't think with my FNP certification I could call myself a CRNA, in any state.

no, under licensing regulations in some states (ARNP). We would not call ourselves FNP either. For example in Wa, our license is ARNP, however we have a specifier on the license that limits our practice to the anesthesia realm. It is similar with CNM's etc. I may not have paid attention to his original post...he may have been interested in specifically FNP...

"disappoints me as I'm sure it disappoints the NPs!! I mean an NP providing primary care which includes prescribing medication, diagnosing medical illness, and paying substantial malpractice insurance"

I know he was interested in "prescribing" , "diagnosing" and the reimbursement for those services. I also saw that he was from Wa.

I know I would feel as comfortable in a clinic as you would in the OR. No disrespect was intended, hopefully it was not perceived.

z

UCLARN · Jul 18, 2004

BUT being an NP is priceless!!!!! to me at least.

Whatever make you happy. I grossed $79,000 last year as an RN,shift diffs, overtime, agency rates!!! And I have no loans to repay.

zacarias, ASN, RN · Jul 29, 2004

Hey all,

A question for this thread: Do you think NP salaries will increase as primary care MDs net pay decreases? Also, it seems that a major healthcare reform will have to happen (insurance companies brought down to size) before primary care people will make adequate money no?