Not just another NETY thread....

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I was just hired into a new grad residency program. I'm an older new nurse (40ish, haha) and I didn't find any "bullying" going on in my clinical rotations: there are a lot of different personalities in any profession. In all the threads on "bullying", I stand firmly with the "older" mindset: ask good questions, work hard, and don't take things personally.

That being said, I graduated this weekend and was able to see two of my former clinical faculty who taught students on the very unit on which I was hired. Both have been nurses for a long time (and would likely both gladly take on the mantle of "crusty old bat", knowing these two amazing women) and both have had students on this unit for many years. I spoke to each separately, and each told me that the nurses on my unit can be somewhat difficult to work with, and that's me being diplomatic about what was actually said. Both said they had to choose patients for their students based on the nurse who had the patient, and not the pathophysiology of the patient, and both said that there are some nurses on the unit who have poor attitudes toward students and new nurses. I'd have taken it with a (tiny) grain of salt if it had come from a fellow student, but this is a slightly larger grain coming from two nurses for whom I have great respect.

Their advice was to keep a positive attitude and not allow myself to be dragged into the nastiness. Pretty simple advice, and something I've had extensive in life training for. I have to admit though, coming from these two nurses, who I'd consider to be tough and assertive, I'm a little nervous. I'm enthusiastic about the position, I'm organized, I want to learn as much as I can, I ask good questions (and not repetitively!)and I don't take criticism personally.....any other suggestions from the Crusty Old Bat Society on how to assimilate into a unit as a new grad? Anything that will help allay my nerves would be greatly appreciated.

Amy, I think you've got a great understanding of both the pros and cons of being a new person and the challenges involved there. I've never subscribed to the idea that there is no truth at all to NETY or bullying. My objection has actually been that the constant bandying the term about for any little things weakens the coinage for those situations in which it really does occur, and most of us COBs can sense the difference right away.

Your case is interesting because you got a warning from the two nurses you respect. I don't really have much to add over the great advice you've received already, but I would love to hear how things are going once you do start. I really want to understand whether or not orientation nowadays is as awful as frequently described here compared to when I started and blessedly had never heard about NETY.

The first sentence of your second paragraph is the only reason I brought this up. If it had been peers, eh, I probably wouldn't have blinked. I appreciate your ears and will keep you posted.

Specializes in Pediatric Hematology/Oncology.

I do wonder, too, about whether or not age is a factor in so many of the newer nurses complaining about their preceptors engaging in "NETY" and being tough on new grads because they don't present maturely. In my program, I can unfortunately think of more than a few of my younger peers who are going to be complaining about NETY and it will likely have nothing to do with the nurses they begin working with - it likely will lie with them. I'm only in my late 20s but I've been working a long time in a manager sense and I know that when younger people come in and act like they don't care or think they know everything or seem "too sure" of themselves and can't take criticism for their mistakes, I get a little "NETY," too. I know, now, how to hopefully avoid that and take any of it that comes to me in stride. I know it's so unlikely to be a case of NETY for you, too and just them testing the newb. We all have to be hazed a little bit and you know deep down that once you prove yourself you're going to have an awesome time. :) Congratulations! Good luck!!!!!!!

Specializes in CCU, SICU, CVSICU, Precepting & Teaching.

I think you (the OP) probably have a pretty good handle on how to proceed in your new job. Don't go looking for bullying and you are not as likely to find it. Understand that there are different personalities, work hard, keep your head down, take criticism well (regardless of the manner in which it was delivered) and you'll probably get along fine. You sound as though you have a good attitude and a good head on your shoulders.

Here's something else to think about: You were hired onto the unit after you did clinicals there. Most of the nurses there have had a chance to meet you, see how you interact with others and probably were asked to weigh in on whether or not you'd be a good fit for the unit. They decided that you WERE a good fit. So you may have a lot fewer problems then you think.

Here's something else to think about: You were hired onto the unit after you did clinicals there. Most of the nurses there have had a chance to meet you, see how you interact with others and probably were asked to weigh in on whether or not you'd be a good fit for the unit. They decided that you WERE a good fit. So you may have a lot fewer problems then you think.

I think this is an excellent point.....I was 35 when I graduated as a brand new nurse, but had over a decade of previous work experience, including management.... AND I was also hired where I did my preceptorship.

At a certain age, most of us know how to play nicely with others, and recognize someone with an "attitude" and/or poor interpersonal skills. (Having raised two toddlers and their tantrums helped, too!!!) :dummy: You learn who you can trust and rely on....and vice-versa.

Sounds like your mentors were telling you that there is poor management of difficult personalities on your new unit....and to side-step the drama (especially the gossipy and nasty talk about third parties not present-make your OWN judgements, and nod and leave when this stuff starts...) I am sure you will be fine,...Best Wishes and Congrats!

Thanks, all! I actually did not do any rotations on this floor, though two of my former clinical instructors do have rotations there.

And I did raise four kids through the toddler phase (and two are teens now) so I know what you mean about playing nice! I've definitely worked with difficult personalities before (spoiler: they're not limited to just nursing....I know, shocker) so I think it's more nerves about my first job than anything else. I appreciate your ears.

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