Medication Aides - page 5

HI. I am new. I am a nursing student scheduled to graduate in May. My state is proposing legislation soon regarding Medication Aides. I am very leary of the wording of the proposal because it... Read More

  1. by   goremyra
    You apparently did not read the Statute correctly. Here is what it says:


    "A: First, you must successfully complete the medication aide training program, which includes:
    • 100 hours of classroom instruction and training;
    • 20 hours of returned skills demonstration laboratory; and
    • 10 hours of clinical experience, including clinical observation and skills demonstration under the direct supervision of a licensed nurse in a facility, and 10 more hours in a return skills demonstration laboratory"


    1)100 hours classroom----------which is what I stated


    2)40 hours of competency evaluation


    That's 20 hours of returned skills (which means I have to pass meds in front of someone to show that I'm competent)


    10 hours of Clinical Experience----------Learning how to pass Meds correctly in front of my Instructor, who is an RN

    AND

    10 MORE hours in a Return Skill Demonstration----again, working under a Registered Nurse to show that I'm competent.


    Altogether, that is 40 HOURS OF COMPETENCY EVALUATION BEFORE I AM TO BE LICENSED. Which is what I stated! So, I was correct! I'm taking the course now. I know what it requires! Sorry!


    Let's not forget that no matter where I go to work in Texas after I'm licensed, I'll have to be trained and supervised at least several days before I'm allowed to pass meds on my own. That's another 32 hours, at least, of competency evaluation, don't ya think?
  2. by   txspadequeenRN
    i laughed when i read this and thought "you have got to be kidding right"... this is so not true that its almost scary... lvn's don't just take a 100 hour course and they are done with pharm...pharm is a course that last throughout the entire nursing school process and must be passed with almost 100% accuracy...it is implemented in every course we take...so no medication aides do not have more education than lvn...

    i find this amuzing that if and when you ccomplete nursing school you will think twice about writing this here cause then you will see the definite differences in the quality of education... for years i did the clinical supervison of the student medication aides in our building for the surrounding medication courses in the area...scary to know that only 1 student could correctly identify her medications before she gave them.. none of them knew you had to obtain bp's before a bp med and then had no clue on pulse parimeters for meds like dig...even when it was written on the mar in fromt of them...

    i ask a student once if a patient was allergic to acetaminophen would she give the patient tylenol...she said.."yeah cause the allergy is not listed on the mar"...uhhhh

    how about the one that was looking for the colace in the narc box and the vicodin in the top otc drawer..that was one of my favorites...she finally gave up "cause the meds were not where they were suppose to be"


    i have cnstantly preached that med aides are a ok idea as long as they are given the proper education....right now texas requirments are very unsafe and the whole program needs to be rethought and re-constructed....


    Quote from goremyra



    the pharmacology learned in a med aide course is actually more than what you'd learn as an lvn/lpn.
  3. by   txspadequeenRN
    you have 10 hours supervised clinical in a facility on the floor passing pills period....does not matter what you do in the lab...the real learning happens when you hot the floor and 10 hours don't cut it neither does 32.. med aides don't have a license they have a cert big difference...i know what this course entails as well sorry...



    Quote from goremyra
    you apparently did not read the statute correctly. here is what it says:


    "a: first, you must successfully complete the medication aide training program, which includes:
    • 100 hours of classroom instruction and training;
    • 20 hours of returned skills demonstration laboratory; and
    • 10 hours of clinical experience, including clinical observation and skills demonstration under the direct supervision of a licensed nurse in a facility, and 10 more hours in a return skills demonstration laboratory"


    1)100 hours classroom----------which is what i stated


    2)40 hours of competency evaluation


    that's 20 hours of returned skills (which means i have to pass meds in front of someone to show that i'm competent)


    10 hours of clinical experience----------learning how to pass meds correctly in front of my instructor, who is an rn

    and

    10 more hours in a return skill demonstration----again, working under a registered nurse to show that i'm competent.


    altogether, that is 40 hours of competency evaluation before i am to be licensed. which is what i stated! so, i was correct! i'm taking the course now. i know what it requires! sorry!


    let's not forget that no matter where i go to work in texas after i'm licensed, i'll have to be trained and supervised at least several days before i'm allowed to pass meds on my own. that's another 32 hours, at least, of competency evaluation, don't ya think?
  4. by   goremyra
    The idea, of course, is that Med Aides are supposed to be familiar and have a working understanding of the Pharmacology. I, personally, know the difference between Peri-Colace (a laxative) and Vicodin (a pain medicine), and that Tylenol has acetaminohphen in it!


    I know that the pool of candidates, to be blunt, coming from being Nurse Aides, isn't the brightest and most promising of individuals, but it appears that Med Aides are being discounted, through and through.


    I was told by Nurses before I began the program that the Pharmacology was more intensive than what a nurse would learn.


    At any rate, I'm rather aggravated that every Nurse on here has something negative to say about Med Aides, etc. I'm not the dumb, dreg-of-society Nurse Aide who doesn't or won't know what he is doing. Period. I have some education. I have intelligence.


    To be honest, I'm becoming a Med Aide to make enough money to finish my Bachelors Degree and go on to something better, something besides the Health Care Industry. I have never met a more disparaging, condescending group of people than nurses who think they know everything.



    Maybe I'll come work under you and catch you making medication errors; wouldn't that be something?
  5. by   goremyra
    TxSpadeQueen...I still have almost a HUNDRED HOURS OF UNIVERSITY CREDIT....Not far from a Bachelors Degree.....from a REAL University, UT-Dallas and Texas A & M, to be specific.....what community college did you earn your LVN degree at? Oh wait, that's A CERTIFICATE too, isn't it? Sorry! Still have more education than you! Get over it!
  6. by   VickyRN
    Moderator's note: Let's keep the topic to NORTH CAROLINA MEDICATION AIDES. If members wish to debate about Medication Aides/ Techs/ CMAs in Texas, then please start a thread in the Texas Nursing Forum. Thank you for your kind consideration of this request.

    And, in North Carolina, Medication Aides are not licensed, they are certified (like the CNAs). They work under the Nurse's license. So, big liability issue.

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