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Hm. They get harder as we go along. Fun.
A 25-year-old maintenance worker is brought into emergency by his co-workers. They have been hired to rehab an old house. The guys say Mike has been working in the basement doing mold abatement - the house had a leak for years and now the new owners wanted to have the basement disinfected and prepped for painting. Mike had seemed fine during the morning coffee break, but by lunch, they notices he wasn't looking good. He tried to pour coffee into his cup and missed. He was having difficulty breathing. Despite breathing very rapidly, the breaths were very shallow and labored. When asked if he was OK, he didn't respond right away, seemed kind of out of it, and complained about his chest hurting. One of the guys took his pulse and discovered it was 125 beats per minute, and they immediately dragged him in. He has crackles. A series of tests were run and gave the following results:
RBC's 5.2X106/ L
WBC's 7000/L
Differential WBC
neutrophils 62%
eosinophils 3%
basophils 0.6%
macrophages 5%
lymphocytes 30%
blood pH 7.3
arterial blood gases
PaO2 55 mmHg
PaCO2 30 mmHg
Mike is put on supplemental oxygen and his blood gases retested 15 minutes later, producing the following results
PaO2 50 mmHg
PaCo2 47 mmHg
I'm leaning toward asthma, a couple people say PE, and another says pulmonary edema. What we all find odd is the continued low PaO2. Part of me says that maybe it is edema and the fluid is keeping the O2 levels down, but wouldn't that then cause elevated CO2 levels, as well? No idea what his pH does after the initial ABG, which might be helpful.
Ah well. More fun for the geeks on the board!
We're narrowing it down, i think. Chest pain = build-up of lactic acid from labored breathing. Severe asthma leads to low PO2 and PCO2 as well as his pH. All brought on by mold exposure. Altered mental state is due to hypoxia. No wheezing because either too congested or he just isn't a wheezer.
Elevated PCO2/lowered PO2 on O2 mask indicates inadequate perfusion due to bronchospasm. No idea what the new pH is so can't comment.
Given that we're in the cardiopulmonary system, this seems reasonable, doesn't it?
We're narrowing it down, i think. Chest pain = build-up of lactic acid from labored breathing. Severe asthma leads to low PO2 and PCO2 as well as his pH. All brought on by mold exposure. Altered mental state is due to hypoxia. No wheezing because either too congested or he just isn't a wheezer.Elevated PCO2/lowered PO2 on O2 mask indicates inadequate perfusion due to bronchospasm. No idea what the new pH is so can't comment.
Given that we're in the cardiopulmonary system, this seems reasonable, doesn't it?
Yep. Maybe you/we/everyone just found one of this guy's triggers. :)
we're narrowing it down, i think. chest pain = build-up of lactic acid from labored breathing. severe asthma leads to low po2 and pco2 as well as his ph. all brought on by mold exposure. altered mental state is due to hypoxia. no wheezing because either too congested or he just isn't a wheezer.elevated pco2/lowered po2 on o2 mask indicates inadequate perfusion due to bronchospasm. no idea what the new ph is so can't comment.
given that we're in the cardiopulmonary system, this seems reasonable, doesn't it?
i think you're on the right track, and i may be overly nit-picky, but i would ask you to reconsider the highlighted part of your post.
perfusion refers to the circulation of blood thru the vessels surrounding the alveoli, where o2 and co2 exchange takes place. bronchospasm may decrease the o2 available for gas exchange at the interface of the alveoli and pulmonary vessels, but it doesn't effect the perfusion per se. the blood will still circulate, it just won't pick up oxygen or get rid of co2.
bronchospasm does effect ventilation, meaning that o2 doesn't get to the lungs and waste products (co2) can't be exhaled by the lungs.
Severe acute asthma (and he's in type II respiratory failure) and I'm not changing my mind again:
http://www.chestjournal.org/cgi/content/abstract/98/3/651
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080410111351AAkqxMC
http://www.chestjournal.org/cgi/content/full/125/3/1081
http://student.bmj.com/issues/00/02/education/13.php
He's not getting oxygen into his blood stream, or CO2 out of it.Sounds to me like it could be a problem related to both circulation and lungs.
after all my blathering about asthma, I'm starting to think it may be mixed: asthma attack leads to spontaneous rupture of blebs and a pneumothorax. The mold fits in, the inability to oxygenate fits in, and the rise in PCO2 goes along with it all.
No reason it can't be two things, is there? Oh, pneumo would also explain chest pain, and spontaneous pneumothorax is fairly common in young men.
Am I overreaching here?
cmonkey
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Okay, my only concern with renal failure is that we're in the cardiopulmonary section of the class and I don't think she'd toss that kind of zebra at us. So far they've all been pretty down-to-earth cases. I'm going to ask if she mistyped (she's dyslexic so it's entirely possible).