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I would do the SIM test again. You may have fried your bacteria if you didnt wait long enough for the stabbing needle to cool. That happened to many people in my class.
You might run your stain again too. My class did two separate stains because of the high risk of messing it up. Your stain could have been messed up during the decolorizing step, or when you heat fixed your slide before the staining process.
We just finished the unknown bacteria in my micro class. I loved it!!
if it's gram negative, you can rule out
serratia
streptococcus faecalis
shigella
salmonella
klebsiella
staphylococcus aureus
enterobacter
proteus vulgaris
citrobacter
e. coli
staphylococcus epidermis
if you had a positive on lactose + gas, r/o
serratia
shigella
salmonella
klebsiella
enterobacter
proteus vulgaris
citrobacter
e. coli
if simmon's citrate was positive, you can r/o
serratia
shigella
salmonella
klebsiella
enterobacter
proteus vulgaris again!
citrobacter
e. coli
that's as far down as i can get you...
serratia
shigella
salmonella
klebsiella
enterobacter
citrobacter
would they really give you klebsiella?!
My unknown was Citrobacter freundii, it was negative for indole,positive for motility and sulfur so if you have Citrobacter it should not have been negative for everything in the SIM. Acid in Sucrose,Lactose and Glucose but gas produced only in Sucrose and Glucose. No gas in the lactose.
Hamm
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I am hoping someone here can help. I have a problem. Either I did my SIM wrong (likely) or my capsule stain wrong (pretty unlikely).
What happened with the SIM was that I read the directions wrong. I stab inoculated it 3 times instead of once. I am not sure if I throw out the results completely or what. If I do, I know I have Citrobacter. If I don't, I would know I have Klebsiella. Only problem is that would mean my capsule stain was wrong because it was negative. I am not sure how I could have screwed that up.
Here's what I have:
Gram negative rod
MacConkey neg or undetermined (colony was cream/slightly pink)
Citrate positive
SIM negative, all of it. Possibly screwed this up
Deaminase negative
Glucose positive +CO2
Lactose positive +CO2
Capsule stain negative (again, could have messed it up, not sure how)
Possible unknowns:
Serratia
Streptococcus faecalis
Shigella
Salmonella
Klebsiella
Staphylococcus aureus
Enterobacter
Proteus vulgaris
Citrobacter
E. coli
Staphylococcus epidermis
Any insight appreciated