Published Dec 15, 2005
mcknis
977 Posts
I know this subject has been touched on "ump-teen" times, but this one is just a bit different.
I am starting nursing school in Fall '06 and am looking at purchasing a stethoscope for school. I want to get one before Jan 1 because I will be taking a nurse aid training course for which I will need one.
I have heard from many people (not just this site, or nurses alone) that if I get a stethoscope, I should go extremely cheap, so I can have a couple of backups in case one gets stolen, lost, or broken, and on the reverse, go with a Littmann because of their rep (while having a cheap backup, for those "you-never-know" instances). I know that Littmann makes many great steths and have been around for a while, but I am not so sure if I should buy a more expensive scope. I have seen many Littmann like quality scopes for a fraction of the cost.
My grandma was an RN and suggested I get a cheap $5 single-head. She said they always worked well for her. I trust her, but have heard the horror stories about people going cheap and not being able to hear a thing! Several other ideas have been pushed my way...
"Knock-offs": I know I can get a Littmann Card 3 TYPE steth for $30 from allheart.com and feel that this might get me by. (But I don't just want to get by.) Everyone has suggested the Card 3 is top-of-the-line and allheart swears that this model is equally competitive. ADC, Prestige, etc. all have their own models for Littmann like goods. Are they just as well-made? ADC has a 603 model that is an exact replica of the Classic 2 and is half the cost. I have purchased "knock-offs" of other items before and have had nothing but top quality at a fraction of the price. Would I be wrong to go this route for a stethoscope?
Sprague: I have heard that sprague scopes are good, but the deal with the tubes rubbing together bothers me. The weight I heard is bearable, but not comfortable. Many EMTs use these and have said they work well for them. (Please don't be offended that I used them in this!) Also the docs on ER use 'em.
Single-head vs dual-head: Is it necessary to have a dual-head scope? I know many who have got by with single-heads, but are they just "getting by"? I don't want to just get by!
Brand name items: I know if I go with a brand name, I will go with a Littmann. And, if I go with a Littmann, I will get a classic 2 or a master classic. I have heard nothing but good about them as "starters." I don't want to waste my money on the Lightweight or select (not many people have anything good to say about them). Many have suggested the Card 3 or Master card and I know those are also good but the price wearies me a bit for just a beginner. Should I get one? I know they are great, but is it too much to start out with in nursing school? After all, I am not a MD or even a Card/Pulm nurse. I want a good scope without sacrificing an-arm-and-a-leg for it!
Kits: Since taking BP is so vital in the nursing world, I have looked at BP/Steth kits. Our local FD relies on quality with a minimum budget and they feel that this works for them. Galls.com (a public safety supplier) and sells the BP cuff/steth sets starting at $16.99 (Cheapy steth and cheapy cuff). If I get a kit, I will buy another steth as a backup.
A wise nurse once told me..."it doesn't matter the stethoscope you use, but the user instead." Maybe thats true. I honestly don't know, and that's why I am coming to all of you for good sound advice. Since you have been in this game for a while, I know you all have some hidden information you can give to a young lad like myself.
Thanks in advance,
Scott
Larry77, RN
1,158 Posts
Scott,
It really comes down to a few key things...personal preference, use intended, and funds available:
-I advise you to go and play with some at a uniform shop or somewhere that
has a good variety.
-Think about what you are going to use it for...if just for BP's a cheep good
brand one will be fine, but if you plan on listening to lungs, heart, and take
BP's than you should look into some midrange to upper range quality steth's
-Think about how much you want to spend realizing you can spend just
about as much as you would like...I've seen them up to 900$ for amplified
recording steth's
-Also as an extra thing to think about is weight, some of the dual headed
and/or sprague type steths can get pretty heavy and if you plan on carrying
it around your neck they can really weigh you down.
-Some schools or instructors insist you use a dual headed steth even though
the good single headed steths do both sounds (personally I like the single
headed Master Cardiology but thats just my "preference")
BTW...never leave it out of your site these important tools tend to get "lost" into someone else's hands even with your name all over it...been there done that twice...grrr
KatieBell
875 Posts
Remember that what your Grandmother did as a nurse, is totally different from what you do as a Nurse. My Granma is 88 years old, was a Nurse during WWII and remembers not being allowed to take a blood pressure...so for sure some things might have worked well for your Grandmother, but the standards and responsibilities of nurses are now constantly increasing. (Your Grandma is probably not quite so old and probably remembers more modern nursing!)
Did you ask the school which one they recommend? Ours insisted that we have a Littman, A Select II or higher.
I'll say just because something looks like a littman doesn't make it a littman.
One other brand I had good luck with was TYCOS- but apparently they are quite expensive- (Mine was one that had been sitting in the ED for one year with no owner, and then someone stole my Littman, so the NM took pity on me and gave me the tycos)
Maybe compromise- the Nurse aide training course is only going to teach you to take a BP- not to eval heart and lung sounds- you could get a 16.00 sprague and use it for the course, and during the time you do clinicals ask some of the nurses if you can borrow theirs- and see which one you like. It's good to have a back up.
One more thing I'll say for Littman is their warrenty. I used my stethoscope in Sudan- due to the extreme heat (about 115 F each day) the tubing crackes, the diaphragm and rim broke and so much dust got into it that the dual head would not turn. I mailed it to them and expected them to tell me that I used it under incorrect conditions. Within 2 weeks, I was mailed a very clean fully repaired stethoscope for free with their good wishes. That was quite a benefit. I used a Sprague during that time and I wanted to scream as I could not really hear any lung sounds or heart sounds...for BP's though it was good.
Best Wishes.
mom2michael, MSN, RN, NP
1,168 Posts
Littman is a good stethoscope and I've been happy with mine.
Now, in my program we are required to buy a certain type and everyone must have the same one in the same color, so before you go out and spend a ton of money, you might want to double check that requirment. I know more than 1/2 my class had to buy a new one when they started school and most were pretty upset about it. They are Littman's though.....
1Tulip
452 Posts
Scott, It really comes down to a few key things...personal preference, use intended, and funds available:-I advise you to go and play with some at a uniform shop or somewhere that has a good variety.-Think about what you are going to use it for...if just for BP's a cheep good brand one will be fine, but if you plan on listening to lungs, heart, and take BP's than you should look into some midrange to upper range quality steth's-Think about how much you want to spend realizing you can spend just about as much as you would like...I've seen them up to 900$ for amplified recording steth's-Also as an extra thing to think about is weight, some of the dual headed and/or sprague type steths can get pretty heavy and if you plan on carrying it around your neck they can really weigh you down.-Some schools or instructors insist you use a dual headed steth even though the good single headed steths do both sounds (personally I like the single headed Master Cardiology but thats just my "preference")BTW...never leave it out of your site these important tools tend to get "lost" into someone else's hands even with your name all over it...been there done that twice...grrr
I agree with Larry:
1. Find the one that works best for you.
2. Get your initials engraved on it. (I just scratched mine on... nothing fancy)
3. Never, ever let it leave you body or pocket. Never set it down and walk away.
I can't hear with the really cheap ones. So if you're learning to take BP's and listening for chest sounds, a cheap one might hold you back.
I've always had bell/diaphragm. Only ever used the diaphragm.
Well...I checked with my schools' Director of Nursing and she said to go cheap! I asked her about brand, and I was informed that it didn't matter, as long as it was within a reasonable budget. I was kind of shocked by her answer, but I guess I will have to live with it. Our school sells nurse kits in the bookstore, but the price is too high for me. I decided to get a BP/steth kit from galls.com for $16 (so I can use the steth as a backup) and also got an ADC 603 (Littmann Classic II SE look-a-like) as my primary steth for $30. I might regret it later on, but since I haven't tried either of them, I am just going to wing it. (BTW our bookstore won't let students remove the steth from the kit to test it out. I think thats crap, but I can understand how they feel, too.)
Just wanted to keep you all informed.