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OK....so here's the deal. I have self diagnosed my self as having gallstones. I know! I know! But you know how we nurses are. It has gotton worse over the last month and I know I need to do something about it. So here is my question.
Option #1
If I do this the way I am supposed too....
go to my famiy practice MD-co pay
out patient labs/testing-co pay
general surgon consult-co pay
out patient surgery-20% to the surgeon and anesthesia
Option #2
Go to the ER, get tests, get admitted, get surgery, covered 100% out of pocket-0
sounds like a no brainer....however, going to the ER and saying "I was having this pain yesterday, it's better now, but I want to get it checked out" or faking the pain......these options go against all my nursing morals, values, ethics....I would feel like such a smhuck going into the ER like this....I need advice.
Bigjim--
Your post explains the exemplary treatment my family has recieved in ED. Apparently each of us have been guilty of gaming the system are were being taught a lesson.
Yessireee, that ED nurse had the last laugh for sure when she programed the infusion pump for dopamine for my mom(septic shock) but neglected to turn it on.
During my dad's last visit we waited 4 hours for the doc to admit him, we saw a trauma roll in and suddenly everyone came alive.
It seems ED staff resents anyone who is not in full arrest or not covered in blood and makes sure to make their ED visit as miserable as possible.
Tell me, does this truly cut down on the frequent fliers?
Bigjim--Your post explains the exemplary treatment my family has recieved in ED. Apparently each of us have been guilty of gaming the system are were being taught a lesson.
Yessireee, that ED nurse had the last laugh for sure when she programed the infusion pump for dopamine for my mom(septic shock) but neglected to turn it on.
During my dad's last visit we waited 4 hours for the doc to admit him, we saw a trauma roll in and suddenly everyone came alive.
It seems ED staff resents anyone who is not in full arrest or not covered in blood and makes sure to make their ED visit as miserable as possible.
Tell me, does this truly cut down on the frequent fliers?
My post was sarcastic, directed at the original poster, not you. I don't even know who you are. Anyone who witholds treatment purposely or deliberately causes pain to a patient should lose their license. Hence the sarcasm.
That said, if your family was in the ER for a petty reason, shame on them and on you.
And nobody who isn't psychotic would deliberately keep medicine from someone in septic shock. It was either an error, they were ordered to hold it for some reason, or the person who did it is crazy.
It is quite possible to wait 4 hours for admission in a lot of hospitals, due to overcrowding and the aforementioned idiots who come in for nothing. And you could definitely see a bunch of people who "aren't doing anything" suddenly "come alive" when a trauma or heart attack rolls in. You see, those are emergencies. You are in the emergency room. See the connection???
If you have an emergency, by all means go to the ER. If you aren't sure if you have an emergency, go to the ER. If you're trying to save a copay and clog up the system for no reason, *$%%$ you.
(This is not medical advice. Jesus loves you)
bigjim
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What a thoughtful and eloquent question. Go on in to the ER! That's what they're for ! Why should you be inconvenienced when you can jam up an already clogged system with your BS complaint. At least you have insurance. ER nurses LOVE people who game the system. Enjoy the very large Foley.