I just recently learned that a friend and I have both been accepted to broward community college. I wont be attending because i'm already taking classes at Barry and have been accepted into their nursing program. but as for my friend she's torn between going to broward community college and keiser. the reason i ask about BCC is because i've heard terrible things about their program and this seems to be much more than just rumors.
I attended open sessions for other schools nursing programs such as keiser and city college and both programs brought up bcc's program and how they were under scrutiny because a large number of the students were either dropping out of the program or not passing the licensing test. when i asked an advisor about this he said they were changing the admission process because alot of students didnt deserve to be in the program. then during the summer i was taking a class with a rn who graduated from bcc and asked her what was going on with the school. she said the reason why bcc was changing up their admission process was b/c while she was there they were under federal investigation b/c someone who worked in the nursing department(receptionist) was selling papers to students. so far it seems all i'm hearing are negative things.in addition i've also heard they're understaffed, thus overcrowded classes.
Can anyone give any insight into this? my friend is contemplating bcc because it's public therefore alot cheaper while keiser is private.
i am so confused. i keep hearing all these horror stories about broward. some say it's true and some say don't believe it. there are 2 users on this site who seems to know a lot of info, and have provided accurate info so far. i am new to this site, and everything they've said so far is accurate. i would trust their input. look for "bumblebeern" and "leavingteaching4rn" replies if you want to know what's rumors, and what's facts. i want to apply for the may program at north campus. i have a 3.9 gpa and i am always on top of my grades. do you think i can keep up my grades or will it ruin at broward? i have a 3.4, and accepted into the program. just like you, i work hard for a's and b's. bcc north is a good institution, you will do fine, you will learn a lot, and you will pass the nclex. check out the doh website (dept of health), if you want to see which schools in the state do well on their nclex. bcc does just fine! yes, rn program will be hard, but you didn't get into this expecting it will be easy. it's up to you if you do well or not. since you have a 3.9, that's impecable! yes, you should definitely apply for may 2009, no doubt. also, i don't have the health career core but i heard if you are currently employed, they will wave that even if i am not certified. is that true? if you are employed by a healthcare institution, and have the certificate, then yes, they will waive it. otherwise, you must take the hcp core class, no other way out (this came from my 2 friends who work in the hospital. one was unit secretary and was certified, she was waived. the other one had to take the hcp. it's easy, dont worry. take it sheridan or mcfatter if you dont want to take it at bcc) any advice would be appreciated. thanks.
Thanks for the information. The only problem is that if I can't get the waiver then I can't apply. I have to have completed it by the application deadline Jan 15th. That is what admissions said.
thanks for the information. the only problem is that if i can't get the waiver then i can't apply. i have to have completed it by the application deadline jan 15th. that is what admissions said.
check with health science admissions to see if you qualify for a waiver. if not, you have to either have the core course completed or have proof that you are currently registered for it when you submit your application
hi,
i have been accepted into [wiki]nova southeastern university[/wiki] and [wiki]broward college[/wiki] for january 2009. after a lot of thought, and talking it over with a lot of rn's who are bcc graduates, and non-bcc gradudates who have bsn (from nsu, uf, and fau), i've decided to accept the seat at bcc.
i faced a similar decision. i had to decide between barry and bc. i decided to attend bc as well after talking to rn's with both bsns and asns. bc has low tuition and high nclex success rate. that's a good combination!
5 questions, any input is greatly appreciated:
1. i was at the orientation 1 week ago, there were 170 students in the morning session and 164 in the afternoon session. about 50 out of those 164 were "alternates". i'm just curious, what are alternates? are they the ones who were not accepted in the first round, and now they are accepted because the "accepted students" didn't register on time, or failed drug tests?
alternates were denied admissions when the original email was sent out. they were then placed on a list in case others declined their seats. the alternates are then given the opportunity to attend so that the program operates at full capacity.
2. the tabe test that we have to take the 3rd week in process i, how long is that test? couple hours? is it math and reading only? lets say if you dont score a 12th grade level, can you retake the tabe test? is it a one time test, or do you need to retake it every 8 weeks like the math dosage calculation test?
tabe, test of adult basic education, is used to award the ged. it's not that long but it will feel like an eternity because you take it immediately after your first exam. you will only take the reading section. your score only comes into play if you fail a course. if you fail a course, your tabe score must be at the 12th grade for you to come back into the program. so, if you score below a 12 and fail a course, you simply retake it at the testing center. two tips: 1. don't blow off the test and christmas tree the answer sheet, which will be really tempting b/c it's administered after the process test and you'll probably be mentally exhausted. 2. don't fail a course. :wink2:
3. has anyone volunteer or done their clinicals at northwest regional in margate? how is it?
sorry, i haven't done clinicals here. do you intend to attend north campus because this is a north campus clinical site?
4. in hospital clinicals, the ratio of nurse to students is about 1:12?
not that high. it may start at 1:10, but as the course proceeds the ratio will drop.
5. for rn's out there: has anyone did the hca or broward health scholarship program? if so, what was your "2 year commitment" experience w/ the hospital like, once you graduated? (ie: same salary as those who did not do the scholarship program? do you get to pick which hospital to work for once you graduate?)
i'm not an rn yet but i accepted this free money! salary is the same as new rns. you apply only for positions you are interested in. the scholarship gets you an interview. let's say, they get 15 applicants for 1 position and the manager only wishes to interview 3 people. if you have the scholarship, you are one of the 3 interviewed. if you choose not to fulfill the contract you repay the money. if you can pay it back in a lump sum, you simply write a check for the amount given to you (interest free). if you need a payment plan to repay the money, the current interest rate is only 2%. i couldn't beat that. even with great credit, i can't find a 2% student loan. but i do intend to meet the commitment.
hello everyone,
i am so confused. i keep hearing all these horror stories about broward. some say it's true and some say don't believe it. i want to apply for the may program at north campus. i have a 3.9 gpa and i am always on top of my grades. do you think i can keep up my grades or will it ruin at broward? quote]
you have to study and know how to take a critical thinking test with scenerio type questions. bc doesn't destroy people's gpa. people who are unprepared enter the program and their gpas plummet. nursing is not like some of the a&p courses where all you do is memorize information and regurgitate it on a test. in nursing, you have to know the info inside and out and then, know how to apply it. this makes it difficult, especially if you're not a good test taker.
I started the program in January and would like to clarify some points:
The Dean of Nursing came into the class this semester, and advised although "the college" may get summer Fridays off, Nursing students will not.
You do not "select" who you want for the classes; there are specific teachers assigned to each course, and if you are on track/ you take what you get.
Pharmacology is Pharm. If you go to another school, so long as the course content is in line, you will receive the appropriate credits for what the University/College awards. For ex. if you take it and get 2 credits, but then xfr to FAU/ they will award you 3 cred for the same class there.
I went to Nova Southeastern, and then the Nursing program at BC, and that is what they did.
Nursing Process 1 is very intense, but not difficult. It is quite voluminous, but you can pass if you study hard.
I am typically an A student, and I got a C in Nursing Process 1. Your standards will change in this program.
Specializes in Med-Surg, GIGU, Psych, Peds, OBGYN.
I have a couple questions I was hoping someone could help me answer. I already have my bachelors but I am taking prereqs at BCC central to get into a nursing program ASAP. I am deciding whether to go to BC or try to do an accellerated BSN.
1) The advisor at central campus told me that BCC is the best nursing program in the state? Would anyone agree to this or is she saying this because she is talking about her own school?
2) I won't be done with my prereqs until the end of the summer, but I do not want to wait until January to start the nursing program because I will have nothing to do over the fall.
So my question is, has anyone ever heard of people applying and getting in while they still had prereqs in progress?
3) Do RNs from BCC with their ASN make the same amount of money (more or less?) as an RN with a BSN from FAU? and do RNs from BCC really get hired over RNs from FAU, UF, or FSU with BSN degrees?
Thank you so much. I would appreciate any info. Good luck everyone!
i have a couple questions i was hoping someone could help me answer. i already have my bachelors but i am taking prereqs at bcc central to get into a nursing program asap. i am deciding whether to go to bc or try to do an accellerated bsn.
i have my bs in management from nova, and thought along the same route. my first choice (of public schools) was the fau accelerated bsn. this was until i went to the school and learned that they have approx. 700 applicants each term, with only 60 spots available. 30 of the 60 spots are for accelerated and the other 30 are traditional students.
word of mouth-wise, i heard that all the accelerated programs were very competitive, and even a 4.0 does not guarantee a seat in. the focus is usually the sciences (and for fau, the letter of intent quality).
1) the advisor at central campus told me that bcc is the best nursing program in the state? would anyone agree to this or is she saying this because she is talking about her own school?
i don't know of the validity, but i have heard this from several other nurses, as well as a few doctors. the reputation stems from the numerous clinical hours required at bc.
2) i won't be done with my prereqs until the end of the summer, but i do not want to wait until january to start the nursing program because i will have nothing to do over the fall.
so my question is, has anyone ever heard of people applying and getting in while they still had prereqs in progress?
yes, you can apply with prereqs in progress, but you must have a&p 1 and 2, chemistry, and your english done before thinking of applying. these grades are weighted in the analysis of your entry requirements.
your electives and microbiology is allowed after your seat offer.
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3) do rns from bcc with their asn make the same amount of money (more or less?) as an rn with a bsn from fau? and do rns from bcc really get hired over rns from fau, uf, or fsu with bsn degrees?
from my understanding, an asn/adn or bsn both make approx. the same in the hospital setting- as a staff nurse. the bsn will have more immediate opportunities for management, moving up, transitioning to the msn, and case management opps immediately. if you intend to work at a hospital, the scale is like $.50 more for a bsn- if even that much. the last posted going rate was $22.50. i am not sure what it is currently for new grad hires. the average rate for experienced nurses is about $30 an hour (with only the 2 year).
since you have your bachelor's in another field, that should be taken into consideration as well (depending on what you have it in). if you call the hr manager at the insitution you are thinking of working in, they could best answer this detail.
thank you so much. i would appreciate any info. good luck everyone!
my decision to go to bc was mostly based on getting into the first program that was not too outrageous on my pocket. i still have 18k of student loans from my master's degree at nova, and i am not in business any longer....go figure! the approx. 6k at bc is very attractive compared with 30k avg at private universities you would pay. i believe fau is just about 8k (don't quote me on that), however the competition is fierce, and you can only get in 1x per year for the may class. bc has entry in january, may and august.
if you hate school and time is on your side, go for the accelerated. if you want to get in asap and save a few $$, bc is the way to go.
i have a couple questions i was hoping someone could help me answer. i already have my bachelors but i am taking prereqs at bcc central to get into a nursing program asap. i am deciding whether to go to bc or try to do an accellerated bsn.
1) the advisor at central campus told me that bcc is the best nursing program in the state? would anyone agree to this or is she saying this because she is talking about her own school? i don't know if its "the" best in the state, however, the nclex passing rates are very high.
2) i won't be done with my prereqs until the end of the summer, but i do not want to wait until january to start the nursing program because i will have nothing to do over the fall.
so my question is, has anyone ever heard of people applying and getting in while they still had prereqs in progress? no. they will not take your application until all the pre-reqs are completed. i even verified this just the other when i asked if i had to wait until may 7th when the grades from this semester are posted to turn my application in (which i already knew the answer to). if you will be finished with your pre-reqs in the summer, and you decide to apply to bcc, then you will be applying for the jan '10 class.
3) do rns from bcc with their asn make the same amount of money (more or less?) as an rn with a bsn from fau? if an rn from bcc and an rn from fau go into the hospital and start work, they will be paid the exact same amount of money. the major difference between the two is that the bsn will be able to apply for administrative positions. you can also advance to a graduate degree, however there are bridge programs that you can go straight from rn-msn, so thats nothing major. and do rns from bcc really get hired over rns from fau, uf, or fsu with bsn degrees? i don't know the answer to this, but unless the particular job is specifying that they only want a bsn or a bsn is preferred, i would say no. adn's actually have more time in clinics than bsn's since they are in the class room more.
thank you so much. i would appreciate any info. good luck everyone!
bc is planning on offering rn-bsn degrees in the near future. they have been approved by the dept. of education to offer then, and the next step is to wait on funding. it might be a little while still, but it is something that will happen eventually.
here are some adn vs bsn threads you can look at for some info:
the thing you are going to have to decide is whether or not you need or want a bsn. it might make sense to go the accelerated route. however, sometimes those programs are very competitive and you may have to wait longer to get into one of those programs, depending on how many times they admit during the year. or instance, fau only admits once a year for both the traditional and accelerated programs, and the new class starts every may. it may actually be faster to get into an adn program and get out and working, then you can find an online program to do your bsn coursework at. there are a ton of rn-bsn bridge programs out there and many of them can be done online.
Ha, I see as I was typing my response out there was another response.
Just to clarify, the pre-reqs are:
ENC1101
CHM1032
BSC1085
BSC1085L
BSC1086
BSC1086L
Those are all the pre-reqs, and those are what must be completed BEFORE you apply.
In addition to that, there are a few general education courses you need to "graduate". Those are:
MCB2010
MCB2010L
Humanities
Social/Behavoral Science
These courses can be taken whenever, even while you are "in" the program (though that is not advised) but must be complete by the time you finish the program.
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hello everyone,
i am so confused. i keep hearing all these horror stories about broward. some say it's true and some say don't believe it. there are 2 users on this site who seems to know a lot of info, and have provided accurate info so far. i am new to this site, and everything they've said so far is accurate. i would trust their input. look for "bumblebeern" and "leavingteaching4rn" replies if you want to know what's rumors, and what's facts. i want to apply for the may program at north campus. i have a 3.9 gpa and i am always on top of my grades. do you think i can keep up my grades or will it ruin at broward? i have a 3.4, and accepted into the program. just like you, i work hard for a's and b's. bcc north is a good institution, you will do fine, you will learn a lot, and you will pass the nclex. check out the doh website (dept of health), if you want to see which schools in the state do well on their nclex. bcc does just fine! yes, rn program will be hard, but you didn't get into this expecting it will be easy. it's up to you if you do well or not. since you have a 3.9, that's impecable! yes, you should definitely apply for may 2009, no doubt. also, i don't have the health career core but i heard if you are currently employed, they will wave that even if i am not certified. is that true? if you are employed by a healthcare institution, and have the certificate, then yes, they will waive it. otherwise, you must take the hcp core class, no other way out (this came from my 2 friends who work in the hospital. one was unit secretary and was certified, she was waived. the other one had to take the hcp. it's easy, dont worry. take it sheridan or mcfatter if you dont want to take it at bcc) any advice would be appreciated. thanks.