National University in San Diego

piggylu · Oct 26, 2007

Did you start at NU yet?

Faeriewand, ASN, RN · Nov 2, 2007

Hi everyone. Wow I just googled NU and read up on the nursing possibilities there then came here and here is this thread. I am currently at Grossomont Health Occupations Center (GHOC) in Santee as an LVN student. Pretty good program.

Grossmont College Nursing program lost its accreditation from the NLN. Should still have accredidation from the Western Association of Schools and Colleges which is what is important. Need to call Grossmont and check on that to be sure.

What do you all know about National University? I am thinking of applying to their LVN -BSN program. But I have a friend who couldn't get in. She had excellent grades and they declined her so what is the admission criteria? Is anyone a student there now? Can you please tell me about the school? The nursing program? What is the reputation in the community? Anyone know? I can hardly wait to hear your replies! If anyone wants to talk about GHOC I can start another thread on it and tell you all about it. :)

Faeriewand, ASN, RN · Nov 15, 2007

Surromom how is NU? you said you start OCt so was wondering. Where are the classes held? anyone know? I thought it was Mission Valley but a rep told me they are only held in Rancho Bernardo! That is way far to drive! If anyone knows please reply here. I really would like an answer. I am very much considering going to National for my LVN-BSN. But I would hate to wait too long.

snowboardgirl · Nov 16, 2007

Hi everyone. Wow I just googled NU and read up on the nursing possibilities there then came here and here is this thread. I am currently at Grossomont Health Occupations Center (GHOC) in Santee as an LVN student. Pretty good program.
Grossmont College Nursing program lost its accreditation from the NLN. Should still have accredidation from the Western Association of Schools and Colleges which is what is important. Need to call Grossmont and check on that to be sure.
What do you all know about National University? I am thinking of applying to their LVN -BSN program. But I have a friend who couldn't get in. She had excellent grades and they declined her so what is the admission criteria? Is anyone a student there now? Can you please tell me about the school? The nursing program? What is the reputation in the community? Anyone know? I can hardly wait to hear your replies! If anyone wants to talk about GHOC I can start another thread on it and tell you all about it. :)

Hello!! Oh I just picked up the HOC, Santee LVN Application-actually filled out this afternoon. But I also have my foot in the door for NU...... Also FYI- Mira Costa (Oceanside) has their LVN-RN program running now, last I called 3 months ago - didn't have a wait list.

So far with NU - my advisor has been super-good with telling me what they are expecting to see when applying at NU, obviously grades are one thing. You have to have at least a 2.75 GPA to apply for all college courses not just nursing courses. Then she said the testing of English and Math are right up there with grades. She told me they are really looking for great english "you know the tests, read a paragraph or two and answer questions on what it was about, or matching word definitions with best possible match" as for Math- they would take people with the highest scores and weed the applicants out from thier...then they take those piles of applicants and read your Essays....and they really look through all of that. So its really a combo of all!! I am gonna just brush up on my math as soon as health care essentials is over and then go do the NU testing....even if you take the test - it shows you adn them what level of eng. & math youare ready to apply for, if you don't score at least just under college albra, or higher - they recommend you take a math course from them or another community college and then take the test again. She told me we are allowed to test up to 3 times and choose the best score with the application- (so take your time before just submitting your app). They will see all the time you took the score and see any improvements, so its better safe then turning in a test you may have just freaked out on. Plus she advised me that there is no time limit, we can take as long as we want (unless that was just for english) no matter what it was a relief when ever other school times ya. It seems like the health care essentials course is taking FOR-EVER!!! I haven't even opened my book to study and still getting an A- its like the calm before the storm of back to studying agian, if I get in someplace....

I would love to get your insight about the LVN courses...as I am applying there.

I am still not sure the route to take if I get accepted to both, I really feel all people who are becoming Nurses should do the whole route - CNA-LVN-BSN or RN with no Bachlrs. But in anycase it a huge difference for the team working together, then just understanding one part, and never having to do clinicals for CNA jobs, or LVNs job. Plus I would feel more comfortable doing this route myself, but if I am not accepted to the LVN at HOC, santee, then I will take NU or apply at Cal State or SDS, by that time I will be a resident. :).

Just get an advisor from NU that really knows the system and will walk you through it not rush you through to get your application in.

Like mine she said if I brush up on my math, take the placement test but don't like my scores, I can take the math I tested into and retest, THEN submitt the app, she said it looks better that you will be full of the math knowledge not just hoping to test better the 2nd time or 3rd time.

man I wrote a book - but our governing agencies have set it up that it takes so long to get done, yet they are all screaming for more nurses.

Peace

Slappy · Dec 11, 2007

Hi everyone. Wow I just googled NU and read up on the nursing possibilities there then came here and here is this thread. I am currently at Grossomont Health Occupations Center (GHOC) in Santee as an LVN student. Pretty good program.
Grossmont College Nursing program lost its accreditation from the NLN. Should still have accredidation from the Western Association of Schools and Colleges which is what is important. Need to call Grossmont and check on that to be sure.
What do you all know about National University? I am thinking of applying to their LVN -BSN program. But I have a friend who couldn't get in. She had excellent grades and they declined her so what is the admission criteria? Is anyone a student there now? Can you please tell me about the school? The nursing program? What is the reputation in the community? Anyone know? I can hardly wait to hear your replies! If anyone wants to talk about GHOC I can start another thread on it and tell you all about it. :)

yes, please. Can you give me more info on the santee ghoc program. What are the admission requirements?

i too applied at national. My kinda iffy about my admissions rep. wasnt really helpful always had to remind her when/if my transcripts came in.. as well as constant follow-ups.

Faeriewand, ASN, RN · Dec 11, 2007

yes, please. Can you give me more info on the santee ghoc program. What are the admission requirements?
i too applied at national. My kinda iffy about my admissions rep. wasnt really helpful always had to remind her when/if my transcripts came in.. as well as constant follow-ups.

For the GHOC program the requirements are that you have to be a CNA and take their healthcare essentials class. A new requirement is you take the TEAS entrance exam. Cost is $2,700. That includes uniforms, school scrubs and all books.

Here is the phone number. The ladies in the office are knowledgeable about the program. (619) 596-3690 They are very helpful. :)

They also have something called a Carl Perkins grant for any student who can qualify. Those students do not have to pay a dime plus they get free gas cards every week!

I just signed up for the IV certification course that starts right after graduation in January. Many students from my class are taking the course. That way when we get our LVN we can say we are IV certified and that might help us get a job.

Slappy · Dec 11, 2007

wow thanks for the quick response

how long is the course?

Faeriewand, ASN, RN · Dec 11, 2007

18 months. They don't run thru the summer because they are with the Grossmont Union HS district so run on their schedule. They break in the summer. But that is a good time to get a job and build your confidence. That's what I did. :)

Faeriewand, ASN, RN · Dec 11, 2007

Another thing. If you are looking to get into it this next year you have to call or get over there quick because today they said only one Healthcare essentials class was open. (They fill up quick) And that class has to be finished by June. Also have to have your CNA by June so that has to be taken maybe at Southwestern or some other place. I know someone who did just that and he did just great. :)

Faeriewand, ASN, RN · Dec 11, 2007

Hello!! Oh I just picked up the HOC, Santee LVN Application-actually filled out this afternoon. But I also have my foot in the door for NU...... Also FYI- Mira Costa (Oceanside) has their LVN-RN program running now, last I called 3 months ago - didn't have a wait list.
So far with NU - my advisor has been super-good with telling me what they are expecting to see when applying at NU, obviously grades are one thing. You have to have at least a 2.75 GPA to apply for all college courses not just nursing courses. Then she said the testing of English and Math are right up there with grades. She told me they are really looking for great english "you know the tests, read a paragraph or two and answer questions on what it was about, or matching word definitions with best possible match" as for Math- they would take people with the highest scores and weed the applicants out from thier...then they take those piles of applicants and read your Essays....and they really look through all of that. So its really a combo of all!! I am gonna just brush up on my math as soon as health care essentials is over and then go do the NU testing....even if you take the test - it shows you adn them what level of eng. & math you are ready to apply for, if you don't score at least just under college albra, or higher - they recommend you take a math course from them or another community college and then take the test again. She told me we are allowed to test up to 3 times and choose the best score with the application- (so take your time before just submitting your app). They will see all the time you took the score and see any improvements, so its better safe then turning in a test you may have just freaked out on. Plus she advised me that there is no time limit, we can take as long as we want (unless that was just for english) no matter what it was a relief when ever other school times ya. It seems like the health care essentials course is taking FOR-EVER!!! I haven't even opened my book to study and still getting an A- its like the calm before the storm of back to studying agian, if I get in someplace....
I would love to get your insight about the LVN courses...as I am applying there.
I am still not sure the route to take if I get accepted to both, I really feel all people who are becoming Nurses should do the whole route - CNA-LVN-BSN or RN with no Bachlrs. But in anycase it a huge difference for the team working together, then just understanding one part, and never having to do clinicals for CNA jobs, or LVNs job. Plus I would feel more comfortable doing this route myself, but if I am not accepted to the LVN at HOC, santee, then I will take NU or apply at Cal State or SDS, by that time I will be a resident. :).
Just get an advisor from NU that really knows the system and will walk you through it not rush you through to get your application in.
Like mine she said if I brush up on my math, take the placement test but don't like my scores, I can take the math I tested into and retest, THEN submitt the app, she said it looks better that you will be full of the math knowledge not just hoping to test better the 2nd time or 3rd time.
man I wrote a book - but our governing agencies have set it up that it takes so long to get done, yet they are all screaming for more nurses.
Peace

Oh hey Snowboardgirl thanks for all the info! Healthcare Essentials is a really a good class to take even if you are not going to get in the program at GHOC. It's just a really good introductory class.

Yeah now that I work as a CNA I know what the job is like and I will be so grateful to my CNA when I am a nurse!

When I get my LVN license I'm just going to go ahead and apply at National and Grossmont college both and see what happens. :) City too. I'm going to have to brush up on my math though. :uhoh3: I don't think there is any way I can pass a college level Algebra course. I still need to take Statistics. I will do that next fall at Grossmont.

Slappy · Dec 11, 2007

For the GHOC program the requirements are that you have to be a CNA and take their healthcare essentials class. A new requirement is you take the TEAS entrance exam. Cost is $2,700. That includes uniforms, school scrubs and all books.
Here is the phone number. The ladies in the office are knowledgeable about the program. (619) 596-3690 They are very helpful. :)
They also have something called a Carl Perkins grant for any student who can qualify. Those students do not have to pay a dime plus they get free gas cards every week!
I just signed up for the IV certification course that starts right after graduation in January. Many students from my class are taking the course. That way when we get our LVN we can say we are IV certified and that might help us get a job.

wow thats it? how do you get admitted besides the teas entrance test? gpa? credits? no waiting list?sorry for all questions, but im trying to figure out the difference between ghoc and a high priced vn program at a trade school.. it seems they are both the same, except for the price..

Faeriewand, ASN, RN · Dec 11, 2007

Yeah basically that's it. There are about 400 applicants each year. They only start once a year in the fall. Most applicants aren't capable of passing the test. So if you can pass you are that much ahead. I've heard that the DON is slowly implementing changes but so far the only change I have heard of is that each applicant must be a CNA, not just to have taken the class. You have to pass the CNA exam. She also wants to implement a points program where if you have taken some college classes then you get points to get into the program. But I don't think that is for this year's applicants.

There is no wait list for the program. Those who don't get in can try again next year. That's the way it goes. What I found frustrating about this program is that I wanted it to go faster. The pre-reqs took one year and then the LVN program took 18 months.