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Nasty ....

In my experience, the two most neglected areas of our practice are mouth and foot care. Our patients often come to us and present some nasty problems in these areas . Be it personal hygiene, a disease process, poor assisted care or disregard by the individual, family and / or primary caregiver it seems to me a continuing problem. Your thoughts?

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Administration doesn't value nurses' time because we don't value ourselves. Take your breaks, eat your meals, take the time to complete tasks without hurting yourself. The time of nurses sacrificing health and sanity should be OVER.

Luckily in ICU, we often have the ability to do some great hygiene, and I love washing hair.

How much gets done depends on what is happening that day.

I have a mental priority list were "have-to's" like assessments, meds, treatments and dealing with the unexpected are at the top of the list. When those are done I work on the less critical things like beyond the basics hygiene, tidying the patient room (I can't think straight in a cluttered environment), and talking with families.

On a good shift, I can get all the top priority things done, and a lot of the less critical things done as well.

On a crazy day, the high priority list keeps growing and after trips to MRI, codes and everything else, the day is over.

So, I had a pretty extensive surgery about a year ago, I had my right liver lobe resection. I remember that first day they had those swabs for me, I may not have had my feet pampered (they were prior lol) but my aides made sure I had mouth care while my ng was in and NPO. Only takes a moment to help someone clean their mouth.

First off my name is Mickey, not 'bud', and I guess the issue boils down to personal time management. What you are willing to forego (breaks, lunch, chat, etc.) to get the job done. Pretty simple to me.

One does not forego lunch or breaks to take care of patients. You may do that, others choose not to do so because carers must care for themselves. This principle doesn't seem like rocket science to me.

I do oral care religiously to prevent infection and not wanting to risk making my patient's condition worse.

But seriously, foot care? And I'm supposed to skip my lunch to accomplish this? Let me explain something Mickey, I often don't get a lunch because I'm worried about making sure my patient lives. Now, if they have a gaping wound on their foot that needs addressed, I'll do it, but I'm not in the business of giving pedicures. It's also against policy to trim nails on my unit. Only a podiatrist can do that.

You are complaining about the wrong thing on here. Oral care is important and should be done for infection prevention. And if I'm lucky enough to get 2 stable patients, I may offer to wash hair if they need it, and I always give my daily baths. But I'm not a pamperer either. The hospital is not a spa.

Oh yeah ... both are not done enough in my facility. It's both a factor of some staff not doing as much as they could, and not enough time for some others of us. At least we have a podiatrist who comes in now and then, so we usually have a running list of people for them to see.

Oh please get off your high horse. I would have done my patients no good if I'd passed out because I hadn't eaten anything. Most days when I took my lunch I sat in the breakroom chatting while eating and getting multiple phone calls at the same time.[/quote']

I just realized autocorrect on my ipad got me this morning. My original post was supposed to say "Most days when I took my lunch I sat in the breakroom charting while eating"- not chatting :facepalm:

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I just realized autocorrect on my ipad got me this morning. My original post was supposed to say "Most days when I took my lunch I sat in the breakroom charting while eating"- not chatting :facepalm:
Edited to reflect the correct word. :)
First off my name is Mickey, not 'bud', and I guess the issue boils down to personal time management. What you are willing to forego (breaks, lunch, chat, etc.) to get the job done. Pretty simple to me.

I think nurses should have enough respect for themselves to take a freaking lunch while on a freaking 12 hour shift. If you'd like to pretend you're an angel, go for it, but others would like to keep their sanity.

I'm not usually this abrasive, but really. Have a little respect for yourself. If patient care isn't getting done and you're not taking any breaks on a 12, then management needs to bite the bullet and hire more staff. Let's not blame the short staffed nurses here.

Well the toes can be a huge problem and nurses aren't allowed to trim nails etc. Other things of course can be an issue.

I was known to give foot care and rubs in CVICU and mouth care. Just depends on the nurse, I guess.

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Very recently I became a professional patient and spent 10 months hospitalized. Part of that time was on life support in critical condition from Sepsis. While I understand all about being busy as I have been a critical care and ER nurse for 38 years...mouth care AND feet care is important to the patient and to their recovery.

At my first hospital in ICU I received very little of the creature comforts. Yes...I was sick and been sick for an extended period of time at home (long story)....from high level O2 on a partial non-rebreather and being so ill, the roof of my mouth was crusted and painful. My nose also suffered and was crusted shut. My lips were cracked, dry, and bleeding. I would try to peel off this caked cement, AKA mucous, off the roof of my mouth in sheets. I was saved when my sister arrived from Chicago (also a nurse) and she took care of my mouth. My feet were weird. They were peeling as well in long sheets of dead skin. No one cared. It made me feel degraded and embarrassed.

At the other hospital I was transferred to...they cared. A warm wash cloth before meals, a back rub, a new pillow case at hs went a long way. I don't remember much from my ICU stay but after extubation (which I don't remember either) the first thing I remember was getting my hair washed by my nurse and 2 CNA's with real warm water and shampoo with a quick blow dry. I can't tel you how good that felt....I felt....human.

I was that nurse who would miss a regular length lunch for a shave, a hair wash, or a good back rub. I never realized how important it was for the little things.

While it might not save your patients life it will make them feel human.

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