MSN for Non-nurses, your opinion...

Tim-GNP · Mar 31, 2001

This is so unreal, Chris-- you sound just like me. I am 29, and I think that many of the nurses are put off by the fact that they must take orders from someone half their age.

It doesn't matter that I have been a CNA, an LPN, and an RN, this nurse can't see that I once did her job, too-- all that she can see is that I am young, and she must accept medical orders from me.

It's actually funny...my entire career I have always had to prove myself because of my age. When I was a nurses aide at 16, it was 'we'll show you the ropes...' and other like comments. When I was an LPN at 18, the 'you're nose is still running' mentality prevailed. When I was an RN/BSN at 22, it was 'he'll learn, don't worry.' I used to be a lot 'gentler' to these attitudes, now I say 'piss on it'- i'm not taking bull, anymore. I'm getting a little too old for the games.

In another thread, there is an argument going on about who is better RN's or LPN's--- the funny thing is, my clinic nurse [who is an LPN and a bit older woman], is the most positive, caring, and sweetest person you ever wanted to meet.

Oh well... that's my day's bit of insanity.

fergus51 · Mar 31, 2001

Well, maybe I think I could take orders from you all without bitterness because I am younger than both of you . I can take orders from anybody because I am so used to doing it because I have only been working a few years. What do you all think would help RN-NP relations? One of my NP friends wants the word nurse removed because then she thinks nurses who don't really know what she does would stop giving her crap. I don't think that would help with people like me, though because I am opinionated and think I know everything

Chris-FNP · Mar 31, 2001

RN-NP relations? Hmmm. That's a tough question to answer. I don't know if there will ever be a real solution. There are so many dynamics involved. Ultimately, it comes down to just people and relationships. If your a good person and always treat people nice, then the favor should be returned...if its not, then the person that holds a grudge is just a bitter person with their own issues.

Chris-FNP

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Tim-GNP · Mar 31, 2001

I think the answer is a mutual respect for each other.... I could NEVER do my job without the RN's, LPN's, MD's & CNA's. If some people would just put aside their hostility and realize that we all bring unique talents to the table, then the patient would win out in the end. Imagine going to work everyday and being supported by your peers? Imagine the RN not being too proud to learn from the CNA. Imagine talking to each other like we have a genuine care or concern for each other? But, the majority of nursing is stuck with their own class wars.

This is one reason I think there should be an entry level degree for nurses--- Then there would be NO room to fight about anything else. Although, if nurses could fight over something as stupid as ADN, Diploma, BSN, MSN, I am sure they would find other equally idiotic things to fight about.

As far as I am concerned, I will not allow anyone to change me. I mouth off a lot on this b.b., sometimes, but in person, I believe in being very positive. No one will make me change that.

Chris-FNP · Apr 2, 2001

One day we will all get along!!! When? Who knows.

:-)

Chris