Msn, man,mn no differences at all

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FYI. MSN, MAN,MN NO DIFFERENCES AT ALL

PLS BE ENLIGHTENED

THESIS OR WITH THESIS?

1. There is MSN with thesis (ex. UE, SLU,CEU) and non-thesis (CLDH, URCarmeli, St. Paul University Tugeugarao)

2. There is MAN with thesis (ex. UST, MCU...etc..) and there is also non-thesis (HAU, La Salette)

3. They say MN (Master in Nursing) is non-thesis (AUF, Siliman, SLU etc) but in UP-Manila MN before is with thesis like Dean Divingracia of UERM.

REMEMBER: ITS WRONG TO SAY THAT MSN IS ALWAYS NON-THESIS. THESIS IS NOT THE PROPER WAY TO DIFFERENTIATE MSN FROM MAN OR MN. MSN ABROAD LIKE IN U.S. IS ALWAYS WITH THESIS.HAVE YOU REALIZED THAT?

CLINICAL OR ADMIN MAJOR?

1. There is MSN major in Admin (ex. SLU, CLDH Tarlac) and there is major in Clinical (ex.SLU,CEU, URCarmeli, Concordia, ST PAUL UNIVERSITY)

2. There is MAN major in Admin (UP Manila and almost all schools) and there is major in Clinical (ex. UP Manila Arellano Univ, Trinity and EAC)

3. There is MN major in Admin (Siliman University) and there is MN major in clinical (AUF, UP Manila-before, SU)

REMEMBER: ITS WRONG TO SAY THAT MSN FOCUS IS CLINICAL AND MAN OR MN FOCUS IS ADMIN.

CHED, WHICH IS WHICH? WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE AFTER ALL?--NOTHING! YOU JUST SIMPLY APPROVE PROGRAMS WITHOUT HAVING IT CHECKED IN INTERNATIONAL NURSING BUREAU. IT'S CHAOTIC. CHED PERSONNEL ARE YOU EVEN A NURSE TO KNOW THESE THINGS?WHAT DO YOU KNOW?MY GOSSSSSSSHHHHHHH. YOU ASK THE SAME QUESTION ABOUT THE DIFFERENCE OF THE MAN, MSN AND MN IM CERTAIN YOU CAN'T ANSWER.

Trinity Univ Asia- Doctor of Nursing Management, is there such thing?or it's the Doctor of Business Management and forcefully aligned it to Nursing thus Doctor of Nursing Mangement. From "Business" to "Nursing".

Base on our research, as of now we only have three kinds of established doctoral programs in nursing:

Doctor of Philosophy in Nursing (PhD)

Doctor of Nursing Science (DNSc)

Doctor of NUrsing Practice (DNP)

No DNM!

Collegues think twice before we decide what to enroll. Would it be MSN, MAN, or MAN?thesis or non-thesis?admin or clinical major? Would I rather take PhD or DNM and take all the risks?

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Specializes in critical care.

Thanks for this info.. really helpful.. anyways, I'm planning to enrol for masteral. which do you think will you recommend in metro manila area only..? I'm looking at the quality and affordability.. thanks!

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thanks for the enlightenment! I am also confused about these degrees.

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I also do not know the differences at all...Choose the best school and that's the difference! :up:

Go for Universities/Colleges that is recognize internationally. Don't fall for the advertisements easily. Have a simple research before enrolling. :nurse: Before there are a lot of fly by night schools offering BSN and now Post Graduate Programs...

BE CAREFUL....BE WISE! :idea:

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i have my masteral at CNU (cebu normal university) the school offers MSN and MN degree. MSN with thesis and MN without thesis. and i have taken the MSN. whichever degree you are planning to take, just choose the best school

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a bit confusing huh.

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correct plethoraldork! look at your MSN in CNU it is with thesis right? so for those who are claiming the MSN is thesis and MAN is with thesis well you're wrong guys...it depends on the school really...think.think.think.choose the best school and program depending on your purpose.

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just a reminder: Info re msn

Our reactions in this thread are based on our personal opinions and queries. As the goal of the thread is to help fellow nurses who are seeking for good schools and credited program that can be acknowledge not just in the philippines but also abroad as many of nurses are leaving for abroad to work.opinions are very personnal and no one has the right to question.

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if there is no difference between the 3 nursing graduate programs why offer such courses? do you even know what your talking about eloi eloi? who are you in the nursing community and are you credible enough to state such claims?

and please refrain from using the term masteral, there is no such word.

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Absolutely, there are differences:

1. NAMING/BRANDING

The school may have the discretion to the branding of their program but ultimately the courses may be the same with other schools. You may look how Australia named their program, it's so diverse.

2. RESEARCH PERCENTAGE

A program may be comprised of:

75% coursework, 25% research

or 100% coursework

or 80% theories, 20% research

or 50/50

etc.

It depends.

3. ACCREDITATION ABROAD

The problem lies to the Philippine education system. We only have 10 years (GS/HS) pre-college education while US, UK, CANADA, AUSTRALIA and a lot more have 12. So there goes the problem. Primarily, we are not at par. To some schools overseas, finishing Masters here is like finishing Bachelors there. Those unis, the more prestigious ones cannot accept your Masters here when applying for PhD/DNP there. You may undergo Masters over again.

BUT few may accept it, few.

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thanks a lot for this thread.....but still im confused on what to take........ any one here knows which is better to take...msn or man based on requirements abroad?????more input please....

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Specializes in ER/Peds ER.

i don't understand why colleges and schools of nursing in the philippines, advertised their graduate nursing programs as "thesis & non-thesis", when in reality, a research work is a requirement to complete their degrees. and, that's a thesis!

a graduate degree requires a thesis, research or a capstone project, whatever they'll call it, to confer the degree. in nursing, a research work or a project is a must to finish a graduate degree- whether it's a master's (thesis) or doctorate (dissertation/capstone project).

some, even require clinical hours to complete the degree, aside from the research, depending on your specialty or concentration.

if you're a foreign graduate and wants to pursue further studies, say in the us, the school that you're applying for will require you to submit your credentials for evaluation, i.e., transcripts, diploma, to an official evaluator, to see if they'll match to their standards- a us equivalency summary.

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