Understanding ABG's - page 2
Hello, I'm new to the world of ITU nursing, in fact i've just finished my 5th shift and am really struggling with understanding ABG's. Can anyone help explain what it all means, please keep it simple... Read More
Oct 14, '08can some one explain to me why a dr I spoke with says the following indicates metabolic acidosis. I would think respiratory, he says no. the HCO3 wasn't given, the CO2 was 40, and the PaO2 was 40. pt was vented after being found in a bin after inhaling methan gas, ammonia and had no respirations. was intubated and now on FIO2. ph is 7.25.
I am an lpn to rn student and have always understood the same way dorimar explained it but he says my dx isn't correct.... is he crazy, or am I??
Oct 14, '08He might have known the bicarb value?! Normal Co2 value is usually 35-45. Yours is within normal. The ph however is acidotic which makes me think that since the CO2 (resp) component is normal, then the bicarb must be low causing an acidosis. If its not the CO2 it has got to be bicarb! or maybe your lab just messed up. The PaO2 is low because he was in respiratory distress, however I would expect the Co2 to be higher than the number you reported. If this guy was not breathing, he should be retaining CO2 and become resp acidotic, but that was not the case, hugh? It could be an effect of the methane or just the current settings on the vent. How long after intubation was this gas drawn? I would definetly increase the Fio2 if I had room, and maybe also play with the peep.
You are not crazy and neither is he. Next time if I were you I would call the lab and request a complete report, its unacceptable to report an abg without the bicarb.
Oct 15, '08It helps to remember "ROME."
Respiratory, Opposite: meaning if the ph is down and the cO2 is up (moving in opposite directions), or vice versa, it's a respiratory cause.
Metabolic, Equal: meaning if ph is up and bicarb is up (moving in equal directions), or vice versa, the cause is metabolic.
That's just a basic explanation, of course.
Someone told me once that it pays to remember the causes and identifications of ph imbalances, because you'll spend all your nursing life treating them in one way or another.
Oct 21, '08maybe this will help too...
1. Draw an H, left side is Metabolic write number 18below, 24 midpoint 30 above. On the right side is Respiratory write number 30 below, 40 midpoint and 50 above
2. Plot the given data bicarbonate, and respiratory
3. Bracket the value to its midpoint, determine which bracket is bigger.
Bigger bracket is the caused of the problem
that's your baby's name...
4.Connect the 2 dots from Left to Right
ascending - acidosis
descending - alkalosis
just for fun!
Nov 17, '08movinup
The pao2 is 40 which is very low. It is highly likely that there is some anaerobic metabolism going on because there is decreased 02 leading to the decrease in HCO3 although it wasn't given to us. No O's to the toes which will lead to the metabolic acidosis. hope this helps!Last edit by slcpicu on Nov 17, '08 : Reason: misspelled
Jan 3, '09