karmyk, BSN 4,780 Views
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8 year(s) of experience
med surg, icu
One of the two diabetes educators at our hospital is a BSN... that seems to be a bit different from doing floor nursing. Have you considered working outpatient? Med surg is tough, and it can easily burn a person out.. I've seen quite a few nurses-- new and experienced-- burn out on my floor. Maybe you just need a break or a change in what kind of nursing you're doing. Infectious Disease in our hospital system also uses RN's, and I'm sure being a BSN would help... that also looks like a different way to use your nursing degree.
When I was a CNA, the guy who taught the CNA course I took was a BSN. I believe one of the PT's at work is married to a BSN who does the same thing... if you're willing to stay on the floor but in a teaching role, that's worth a try...
A lot of SNF, hospice, home care reps that come and go in our hospital are RN's... not sure if they're BSN or MSN, but that's something you can also look into. They do a lot of the administrative stuff and don't look like they do any floor work at all (especially if they show up at the hospital in miniskirts and three inch stiletto heels).
I know of a few nurses who also work as consultants (medical/healthcare-related) on the side as well...
How are you studying for this? Any sites/books you can recommend with advice?
I also heard that the bullying in Nursing is far more abundant than any other profession. My professors have joked that I will most likely not be bullied because I am 6'5 265 lbs and they will be intimidated.
My suggestion for you is to research and possibly find a job in nursing informatics.
every system is out to make a profit; the difference in the "for" vs "not-for" is what happens after the profit is made. "for profits" are responsible to investors first then reinvest into the system, whereas "not-for" will reinvest (sometimes) into the system. reinvest can mean anything - new equipment, research, raises and benefits.
We get that quite a bit (physical attacks on RN's, LVN's, CNA's) on my floor, and we're med-surg. We get a lot of ETOH, dementia, etc... and on top of that, a handful of wealthy customers used to get their own way. Unfortunately, we don't get a whole lot of support from management when it happens... a recent registry/traveler got burned out and ended her contract with our hospital because of it (and it happened multiple times to her). It's too bad-- she was a great nurse, and it was sad seeing her leave.
Regarding the other service professions, at least they don't have to give bed baths, peri care, etc. to their perverted clients. I mean... it's one thing when a perverted guy continuously hits on you and you can walk away afterwards... but another if a perverted guy continuously hits on you, and you have to continually clean and elevate his swollen, infected scrotum because he moves it on purpose when you walk out of the room (and we have to round at least once an hour for a twelve hour shift). I think medical floor staff have to take it all above and beyond, and they have to do it with a smile... but I guess that's why we get to enjoy "job security" in our field.
Its surprising that I would have to deal with this as an RN b/c the ones at my work dont help me one dang bit with any of the things I listed above
And please dont get me wrong. I know theres an insane amount of paper work and charting with nursing. I see it every day. But when Im running my rear end off all night and you're just sitting at the desk chit chatting about a vacation and dont even offer to help me, thats what I have a problem with
How accurate is salary.com? According to them, the average RN in SF makes $77,712, which is about $37/hr. Not quite the $50/hr I've been reading on this forum.
UCLA is your best bet.
Congratulations! Despite the traffic, it's a great area (once you get used to how crowded it is).
New Grad hiring comes and goes in waves... I know that it was frustrating for me at first... and even more frustratingly so, most of the offers came AFTER I already accepted my current job (which I truly am thankful for; I've been learning a lot, and everyone has been extremely helpful where I work).
Keep on trying... and don't wait to be called: call recruitment, try to call the nurse manager, etc. The jobs will come in time. I know we just hired a group of new grads where I work, so it might be awhile before another new grad group starts (maybe spring of next year).'
edit: never mind.
I'd say go with the ADN or the cheaper program. You'll probably get more of your money's worth, with the added bonus of semi-competent administration.
Not quite sure where you're going with that statement... but I read that article, too.
I thought it was a lame attempt by Time magazine to promote its ideal presidential candidate. The responsibility of being the President (and Commander-in-Chief) of a major western power is a very different situation from working as an ICU nurse... and while they're both important jobs, it's ridiculous and irresponsible to make that sort of comparison between the two.
I relocated from Northern California... no connections to the hospital systems here at all. It took me about two months before I started working... but I also hadn't taken the NCLEX yet. If you didn't go to a local school or don't know people in the area, it's difficult to get an interview if you haven't taken and passed the NCLEX yet. Some managers will tell you to call them back after you've passed.
I know of people whose instructors or clinical instructors knew nurse managers and were willing to hand resumes/cover letters to the managers, so they didn't have to go through the same process that you'll have to go through... it's a bummer when you see that happen, especially when you've been trying forever to contact nurse managers from those hospitals but have to call half a dozen times before you get called back.
I might have been applying at a bad time (late January seemed like a bad time to start applying for jobs... March seemed to be better). I lucked out because I realized I hadn't applied for a job with Scripps... and within less than a week or so of applying with them, I got in contact with a really great recruiter at Scripps who knew that the managers at her hospital weren't hiring new grads, but she still helped me find new grad positions at other hospitals and apply for them... and she even followed up with me to make sure I got in contact with some of the nurse managers. That was probably the nicest thing any of the recruiters had done for me-- it definitely made a good impression of Scripps for me.
The process with Scripps took maybe 2-3 weeks... I'm not sure what it would have been like, though, if I had applied in January (as opposed to early February). It was only after I finally started the new grad program there that I received calls from the other hospitals I applied to about potential openings for new grads.
Nurse-to-patient ratios go by California laws... on my floor (med surg) it's 4 or 5 patients per nurse... lately you're more likely to get 4 (I think they're shooting for that as a goal), but there are some nights that you still get 5.
The best advice I can give for anyone who's applying from out-of-area is to be proactive... realize that you don't have the resources that the local new grads have, so you're going to have to work two or three times harder (if not more) to get your foot in the door.
I think they base your salary on experience as an R.N... not on anything else previous (but I might be wrong... I'm a new grad myself, but I used to be a CNA... there's a girl who used to be an L.V.N. who works with me, but I think she gets the standard New Grad RN pay as well). If you work for the V.A. your military experience might count towards seniority and retirement, but I don't think it would help with pay if your experience wasn't as a nurse...
New grads generally start in San Diego at $30+ for an ADN. Some hospital systems will pay you more if you get a BSN or MSN... you might want to contact a recruiter and ask them about it.
And YES the cost of living in San Diego is MUCH MUCH MUCH higher than the cost of living in Sacramento (I grew up there and my parents still live there)... but we have a beach and surf and warm weather here, so I'm not tempted to move back to Sac. Yet. ><
If you play your cards right, you can build up your skills pretty decently with Samuel Merritt... you just have to choose the right clinical instructor. All of the clinical instructors are good, but there are some who really make sure you get every opportunity you can possibly get to learn the basic skills. I believe some of them teach for the ABSN program.
There are a lot of great scholarship opportunities for the ABSN program as well... look into the Kaiser scholarship, especially if you're interested in working for Kaiser.
I second the suggestion that you save everything you send them... they lose everything, and if you want something done, you're going to have to stay on top of it (even offer to walk things between departments/offices and hand them to the respective person responsible for them yourself... it's amazing how often the Administration messes things up, given the fact that it's a tiny school).
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